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Subject: [Leica] Gun control
From: alal at poly.edu (A. Lal)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 17:08:59 -0500
References: <CCF23F5D.22A85%chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com>

Chris, this is a classic case of abuse of power and political intimidation. 
Has nothing to do with constitutional rights. Both girls were released 
within hours BTW. No Judge - not even the most servile  - would have let the 
arrest stand.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Crawford" <chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com>
To: <lug at leica-users.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Gun control


> Jayandand's country, India, threw two teenage girls in jail a couple weeks
> ago because one of them posted a comment on Facebook about a dead
> politician that angered his followers, and the other girl  merely "liked"
> the first girl's post. Both were arrested.
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> On 12/15/12 2:29 PM, "jon.streeter" <jon.streeter at cox.net> wrote:
>
>>Do "most Asian countries" have a constitution with the guarantees of
>>freedom of the press and the right of the people to keep and bear arms,
>>in writing with a history of high-court decisions affirming those rights?
>>
>>
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>>----- Reply message -----
>>From: "Jayanand Govindaraj" <jayanand at gmail.com>
>>To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>>Subject: [Leica] Gun control
>>Date: Sat, Dec 15, 2012 10:03 am
>>
>>
>>Most Asian countries have all these things. It is by no means restricted
>>only to the USA.
>>Cheers
>>Jayanand
>>
>>On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Phil Forrest
>><photo.forrest at earthlink.net>wrote:
>>
>>> Most countries in the East also don't have the freedoms of speech,
>>> religion, press like we do here. Right to due process of law. Innocence
>>> until proven guilty by a jury of one's peers. Right to a speedy trial.
>>> Right to be secure in one's effects. Equal protection under the law for
>>> all citizens. Right to vote. The list goes down the Bill of Rights and
>>> through the rest of the US Constitution. No matter what nation says
>>> they have it right, they are wrong. Nobody is perfect, including the
>>> USA but here in the USA we have these rights and many are willing to
>>> give their lives to protect them.
>>>
>>> Phil Forrest
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 14:11:42 +0800
>>> David Ching <davidhhching1 at yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Most countries in the East ban possession of fire-arms by individuals
>>> > and unlicensed bodies. Schools here do not have metal detectors.
>>> > The students in general study in safe environments little affected by
>>> > violence, drugs or extortion. Only bullying by peers rears its ugly
>>> > head in certain schools. We watch the same violent movies. Have the
>>> > same concerns about safety. This is the 21st century. Why does
>>> > Americans need to have guns for self-protection? Stop shooting games
>>> > & hunting with bullets. 'Shoot' with glass! Capture not kill not
>>> > maim. It's time to act when little innocent kids get killed and
>>> > scarred for life.
>>> >
>>> > It's indeed a very sad day in the history of the USA. And I am
>>> > certain some other shooter will try to outdo this latest insane act.
>>> >
>>> > Mark, the firearms industry and gun toting lovers will always defend
>>> > the right to arms. Until one of their kind is personally affected, I
>>> > suppose. Sorry but I don't see the logic. Perhaps our differences in
>>> > lifestyles account for this madness. It's not matter of the East
>>> > versus the West. The Europeans do not bear arms.
>>> >
>>> > As I see it, the only way out is a total ban on guns for the civilian
>>> > population. Of course with the usual exceptions..
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > David Ching
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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