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Subject: [Leica] Gun control
From: chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com (Chris Crawford)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 14:54:57 -0500

Jayandand's country, India, threw two teenage girls in jail a couple weeks
ago because one of them posted a comment on Facebook about a dead
politician that angered his followers, and the other girl  merely "liked"
the first girl's post. Both were arrested.

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On 12/15/12 2:29 PM, "jon.streeter" <jon.streeter at cox.net> wrote:

>Do "most Asian countries" have a constitution with the guarantees of
>freedom of the press and the right of the people to keep and bear arms,
>in writing with a history of high-court decisions affirming those rights?
> 
>
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>----- Reply message -----
>From: "Jayanand Govindaraj" <jayanand at gmail.com>
>To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>Subject: [Leica] Gun control
>Date: Sat, Dec 15, 2012 10:03 am
>
>
>Most Asian countries have all these things. It is by no means restricted
>only to the USA.
>Cheers
>Jayanand
>
>On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Phil Forrest
><photo.forrest at earthlink.net>wrote:
>
>> Most countries in the East also don't have the freedoms of speech,
>> religion, press like we do here. Right to due process of law. Innocence
>> until proven guilty by a jury of one's peers. Right to a speedy trial.
>> Right to be secure in one's effects. Equal protection under the law for
>> all citizens. Right to vote. The list goes down the Bill of Rights and
>> through the rest of the US Constitution. No matter what nation says
>> they have it right, they are wrong. Nobody is perfect, including the
>> USA but here in the USA we have these rights and many are willing to
>> give their lives to protect them.
>>
>> Phil Forrest
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 14:11:42 +0800
>> David Ching <davidhhching1 at yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
>>
>> > Most countries in the East ban possession of fire-arms by individuals
>> > and unlicensed bodies. Schools here do not have metal detectors.
>> > The students in general study in safe environments little affected by
>> > violence, drugs or extortion. Only bullying by peers rears its ugly
>> > head in certain schools. We watch the same violent movies. Have the
>> > same concerns about safety. This is the 21st century. Why does
>> > Americans need to have guns for self-protection? Stop shooting games
>> > & hunting with bullets. 'Shoot' with glass! Capture not kill not
>> > maim. It's time to act when little innocent kids get killed and
>> > scarred for life.
>> >
>> > It's indeed a very sad day in the history of the USA. And I am
>> > certain some other shooter will try to outdo this latest insane act.
>> >
>> > Mark, the firearms industry and gun toting lovers will always defend
>> > the right to arms. Until one of their kind is personally affected, I
>> > suppose. Sorry but I don't see the logic. Perhaps our differences in
>> > lifestyles account for this madness. It's not matter of the East
>> > versus the West. The Europeans do not bear arms.
>> >
>> > As I see it, the only way out is a total ban on guns for the civilian
>> > population. Of course with the usual exceptions..
>> >
>> >
>> > David Ching
>> >
>> >
>> >
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