Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/12/09
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]At least I have no illusions. This is what is there now: http://www.groundzerobluesclub.com/ Here is how I think of it: http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?ammem/fsaall:@filreq(@field(NUMBER+ at ba nd(fsa+8c36090))+ at field(COLLID+fsa)) Maybe Bukka White singing "When can I change my clothes" for good measure (1939?). But then, we have also given up at least temporarily on our Havana trip. I see "Havana 1933" by Walker Evans, but the reality is that for every 1957 Chevy convertible there are 1,000 Hondas. I think we are still on track for our Poland adventure next year (my wife's family is from there). Ken -----Original Message----- From: lug-bounces+kcarney1=cox.net at leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+kcarney1=cox.net at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Don Dory Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 6:06 PM To: Leica Users Group Subject: Re: [Leica] Desensitization Ken, I just had a good friend tour the Blues sites in Mississippi near Greenwood. Most are still there in all their grubby glory. The Delta is a place of great poverty with pockets of vast wealth. Good ingredients for the Blues. Most of the worst poverty is invisible now. It doesn't mean that it isn't there but it is poor politics to have rows of shotgun shacks with no running water and no interior toilet facilities visible from the road. On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Don Dory <don.dory at gmail.com> wrote: > I knew that term would draw fire. Many residents of the Southeastern U.S. > use that term as from their perspective the Northern States violated > the long term agreement about slavery. It is important when moving > between cultures to understand their perspective on how things > happened and more important the why. Whether it fits the facts on the > ground the personal reality is the sum of the society, it's myths, > dreams, and the origination stories that culture tells itself. > > As to the American Civil War as most know the conflict of the early to > mid 1860's it was eighty years in the making more or less and proof > that even know horrendous human undertakings require just as > horrendous a response to change. My opinion is that is why change is > so hard, the price of change is often as horrendous as the objected to > activity. Consider the Second World War, we remember the Holocaust as > 6 million Jews, Gypsies, and mental defectives being slaughtered but > it took the lives of some 20 million Russians, 12 million Germans, > half a million French citizens, half a million Americans, almost > 600,000 Poles. I could go on but certainly a very high price to resolve European issues starting in 1914. > > As to the question of the pictures, if you browse the images of the > Civil War there are a few still available of the "hospitals" where the > only known treatment for 58 caliber bullets smashing bone and flesh > was amputation; hence the piles of arms and legs. The United States > suffered more deaths and injuries during the Civil War than it did in > any other conflict: new estimates are at 750,000 casualties. > > > On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 6:24 PM, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> > wrote: > >> I love the South and would miss it terribly. There are plenty of us >> who don't fly Confederate flags, support Obama, vote Democratic, and >> don't stereotype others. >> >> Tina >> >> On Sunday, December 9, 2012, Bill Pearce <billcpearce at cox.net> wrote: >> > Usually pronounced Wah uv Nawthen Agression, this is the term that >> residents of the US South (Sore Loosers) use to describe the American >> Civil War. These can be, but not always are the same people that have >> large Confederate flag decals on their pickup trucks. It is an >> inaccurate description. President Lincoln was brilliant and far >> seeing, and realized that if this succession was to become fact, >> there would be no end, and what is the USA would become a hodgepodge >> of tiny nations led by who knows what. >> There are many of us, however, who wouldn't miss the south a bit. >> > >> > -----Original Message----- From: philippe.amard >> > Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 5:10 PM >> > To: Leica Users Group >> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Desensitization >> > >> > could it be Vietnam? >> > ph >> > >> > Le 9 d?c. 12 ? 23:39, Douglas Barry a ?crit : >> > >> >> >> >> "Don Dory" <don.dory at gmail.com> wrote >> >>> >> >>> nasty deaths from smallpox and ebola. Or consider the images >> >>> from >> the >> War >> >>> of Northern Aggression where there were stacks of limbs outside >> >>> the >> medical >> >>> tents. >> >> >> >> Don, as an Irishman living in Ireland and unfamiliar with many >> >> terms >> used in the States, what was the War of Northern Aggression? Do you >> mean the Korean War? I never saw those images. >> >> >> >> I presume you don't mean the American Civil War as I thought that >> started with the Confederacy attacking Fort Sumter? Well it did >> according to all those school history books (European) I read 50 >> years ago. >> >> >> >> Maybe school books are different in the USA.... >> >> >> >> Douglas >> >> _________ >> >> Douglas Barry >> >> Bray, Co. Wicklow >> >> Republic of Ireland >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Leica Users Group. >> >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >> >> information >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Leica Users Group. >> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >> > information >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Leica Users Group. >> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >> > information >> > >> > >> >> -- >> Tina Manley, ASMP >> www.tinamanley.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > > > -- > Don > don.dory at gmail.com > -- Don don.dory at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information