Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/12/01
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]We are defined by our output. Myself and many of my up and coming photo friends started out with 8x10 portfolios. Then we realized the real pros all had 11x14 portfolios and we went out and got 11x14 trays and did that. We found that some of our top 8x10 images did not work out so well at 11x14. The hand held camera blur revealed itself too much or perhaps it was the less then great glass or a dozen other areas of less than stellar technique. So we went out and got a Rolleiflex and used tripods more and tried to have less solvent in our developers. Or whatever else. Ten or fifteen years later I bought a pack of 30x40 inch paper to print a commercial job and had to buy a second pack to use one sheet to finish it off. I then as I'd paid for the day in the rental lab printed up some of my established icons to see what they looked like. Even black and white negs in an enlarger with a color head and run through the C print machine as a C print. It was revealing 125th of a second is really not so great to use with a 105 lens at that size. You put it on a tripod and it looks a lot shaper. That fence in the background you can now see the slats. Lock the mirror up it looks a lot better than that. More slats. As Roseanne Roseannadanna says: "Well, Jane, it just goes to show you, it's always something--if it ain't one thing, it's another." Mark William Rabiner Photography http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > From: John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 20:44:13 +0000 > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Comparison of DMR to Nikon D800E the cheap nikon 28-80 > > You may get a shock with some of your lenses if you were to shoot on a > D800E...... > > john > >> -----Original Message----- >> >> For two solid weeks I've been shooting with a normal zoom nikon kit lens >> of >> the pervious film fueled decade. >> The Nikon 28-80mm f/3.3-5.6G >> >> On my D700 >> >> Straight from the dark side: >> http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/28-80mm-g.htm >> >> " The Nikon 28-80mm G is a dinky 7-ounce (190g) plastic zoom with >> incredibly >> good performance." >> " Incredible means unbelievable. The performance of this lens is so good >> that >> no one will believe it possibly can come from a lens this cheap." >> >> Cheap means 50 bucks. >> >> " The Nikkor 28-80mm G is one of Nikon's most popular lenses of all time. >> Nikon made over a million and a half of these, so you will find them >> everywhere. Mine came attached to an N55." >> >> I bought an N55 so I could get this lens. I used the camera once. >> >> " The front element is a compound aspherical. This means Nikon glues a >> thin >> plastic corrector over another spherical glass element, giving the >> performance of an aspherical lens at a low price" >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Mark William Rabiner >> Photography >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >> >> >>> From: Aram Langhans <leica_r8 at hotmail.com> >>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 09:55:32 -0800 >>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Comparison of DMR to Nikon D800E >>> >>> That's what I have gathered. But as you say, expensive, and indeed >>> heavy. >>> One of my prime considerations for lens choice is weight, as I hike >>> all over with them. They could be with me for 10 hours in a day. I >>> thought the >>> 35/70 was heavy at one time, but nothing compared to my current Nikon >>> 24-120/4 I bought at the last minute to substitute for the 35/70 when >>> I dropped it and broke it a few weeks before a two month trip, so I >>> needed something. the 24/120 was lighter and smaller than the >>> 24-70/2.8 >>> >>> Aram >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: <grduprey at mchsi.com> >>> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 10:54 PM >>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Comparison of DMR to Nikon D800E >>> >>>> Aram, >>>> >>>> I will try to do it this weekend. However, I can tell you the 24/70 >>>> f2.8 is a real gem of a lens. Fast focussing, quiet and sharp. Also >>>> expensive. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Gene >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Aram Langhans" <leica_r8 at hotmail.com> >>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> >>>> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 9:01:21 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada >>>> Central >>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Comparison of DMR to Nikon D800E >>>> >>>> Would love to see the 35/70 R vs the 24/70 N. I am considering the >>>> D600, but will have to replace my Nikon DX 10-24 with something. In >>>> looking at what Nikon has to offer for FF in that range, I cringe at >>>> every review when they talk about the massive amount of distortion, >>>> or the edge performance. >>>> That seems to be universal for zooms with Nikon and Canon and xxxx. >>>> But I have never noticed much with the 35/70 R. But have never done >>>> any objective tests. Hope you have the time to make this comparison. >>>> >>>> Aram >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: grduprey at mchsi.com >>>> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 2:50 PM >>>> To: Leica Users Group >>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Comparison of DMR to Nikon D800E >>>> >>>> Frank, >>>> >>>> No I have not seen any comparisons of the DMR and D800E. Can't >>>> comment on the D800, but I do have a D4, and just off the top, the >>>> DMR does a fair job against the D4 for an 8? year old design. >>>> Although I have not made a side by side comparison of images. The D4 >>>> kills the DMR when it comes to high ISO, and kills just about >>>> anything else in that category. The D4 is very waterproof, from >>>> recent experience, where the DMR may not be as good, as I keep it out >>>> of the rain when I am not shooting, but it has not had any glitches >>>> when it did get wet, but I worry about the motor to camera interface >>>> not being too water tight. They are both heavy, pretty close >>>> actually, the DMR on the R8 is a bit shorter than the D4. Turn on is >>>> much slower with the DMR, and so is write speed. The buffer on the >>>> DMR is very small, where the D4 buffer is vast and you can shoot >>>> rapidly with no problem of the camera slowing down (great for bird in >>>> flight photos), although i would bet Doug would out do it with the >>>> DMR and a single click ;). The R8DMR is a bit quieter, noise wise, >>>> but the D4 beats the D800 or D700 by light years in this area. I >>>> prefer the simplicity of the DMR controls over those of the D4, >>>> although the D4 controls are well laid out, when compared to earlier >>>> Nikon DSLRs, and definitely better than Canon DSLRs. You can get >>>> D4 batteries, where the DMR batteries are rarer than Hen's Teeth, and >>>> must be rebuilt or use an external source if you cannot get them >>>> rebuilt. The charge also lasts way longer than the DMR's batteries, >>>> although they are not cheap by any measure. The auto focus on the D4 >>>> is simply AMAZING! It locks on very fast and no hunting at all, even >>>> in low light, MF with the D4 and older MF Nikkors is very good also, >>>> as it has a bright view finder (but not as quite as bright as the R8 >>>> I think). MF on the DMR is getting a bit slow with my 64 year old >>>> eyes, but still works good in most light levels. Build for both is >>>> excellent, but would give the D4 a bit of a nod here, due to the >>>> previously mentioned motor to camera body interface of the DMR. I >>>> will go out this weekend and do a side by side image test of the two, >>>> probably with the 180/2.8 MF Nikkor, and the 180/3.4 R APO lenses >>>> (Similar vintage lenses), don't have any other similar lenses to >>>> compare. But could do a comparison of my 35~70R zoom and my 24~70 >>>> AF-S Nikkor zoom. Any thing I have not covered, that you would like >>>> to know? >>>> >>>> CHEERS, >>>> Gene >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Frank Filippone" <red735i at verizon.net> >>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> >>>> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 1:22:20 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada >>>> Central >>>> Subject: [Leica] Comparison of DMR to Nikon D800E >>>> >>>> Has anyone seen a comparison of the DMR and the Nikon D800E? Using >>>> Leica glass, of course. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Frank Filippone >>>> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information