[Leica] Comparison of DMR to Nikon D800E the cheap nikon 28-80

[john at mcmaster.co.nz (John McMaster)]

You may get a shock with some of your lenses if you were to shoot on a 
D800E......

john

> -----Original Message-----
> 
> For two solid weeks I've been shooting with a normal zoom nikon kit lens of
> the pervious film fueled decade.
> The Nikon 28-80mm f/3.3-5.6G
> 
> On my D700
> 
> Straight from the dark side:
> http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/28-80mm-g.htm
> 
> " The Nikon 28-80mm G is a dinky 7-ounce (190g) plastic zoom with 
> incredibly
> good performance."
> " Incredible means unbelievable. The performance of this lens is so good 
> that
> no one will believe it possibly can come from a lens this cheap."
> 
> Cheap means 50 bucks.
> 
> " The Nikkor 28-80mm G is one of Nikon's most popular lenses of all time.
> Nikon made over a million and a half of these, so you will find them
> everywhere. Mine came attached to an N55."
> 
> I bought an N55 so I could get this lens. I used the camera once.
> 
> " The front element is a compound aspherical. This means Nikon glues a thin
> plastic corrector over another spherical glass element, giving the
> performance of an aspherical lens at a low price"
> 
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> 
> Mark William Rabiner
> Photography
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
> 
> 
> > From: Aram Langhans <leica_r8 at hotmail.com>
> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> > Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 09:55:32 -0800
> > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Comparison of DMR to Nikon D800E
> >
> > That's what I have gathered.  But as you say, expensive, and indeed 
> > heavy.
> > One of my prime considerations for lens choice is weight, as I hike
> > all over with them.  They could be with me for 10 hours in a day.  I
> > thought the
> > 35/70 was heavy at one time, but nothing compared to my current Nikon
> > 24-120/4 I bought at the last minute to substitute for the 35/70 when
> > I dropped it and broke it a few weeks before a two month trip, so I
> > needed something.  the 24/120 was lighter and smaller than the
> > 24-70/2.8
> >
> > Aram
> >
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > From: <grduprey at mchsi.com>
> > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 10:54 PM
> > To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Comparison of DMR to Nikon D800E
> >
> >> Aram,
> >>
> >> I will try to do it this weekend.  However, I can tell you the 24/70
> >> f2.8 is a real gem of a lens.  Fast focussing, quiet and sharp.  Also
> >> expensive.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Gene
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Aram Langhans" <leica_r8 at hotmail.com>
> >> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> >> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 9:01:21 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada
> >> Central
> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Comparison of DMR to Nikon D800E
> >>
> >> Would love to see the 35/70 R vs the 24/70 N.  I am considering the
> >> D600, but will have to replace my Nikon DX 10-24 with something.  In
> >> looking at what Nikon has to offer for FF in that range, I cringe at
> >> every review when they talk about the massive amount of distortion,
> >> or the edge performance.
> >> That seems to be universal for zooms with Nikon and Canon and xxxx.
> >> But I have never noticed much with the 35/70 R.  But have never done
> >> any objective tests.  Hope you have the time to make this comparison.
> >>
> >> Aram
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: grduprey at mchsi.com
> >> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 2:50 PM
> >> To: Leica Users Group
> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Comparison of DMR to Nikon D800E
> >>
> >> Frank,
> >>
> >> No I have not seen any comparisons of the DMR and D800E.  Can't
> >> comment on the D800, but I do have a D4, and just off the top, the
> >> DMR does a fair job against the D4 for an 8? year old design.
> >> Although I have not made a side by side comparison of images.  The D4
> >> kills the DMR when it comes to high ISO, and kills just about
> >> anything else in that category.  The D4 is very waterproof, from
> >> recent experience, where the DMR may not be as good, as I keep it out
> >> of the rain when I am not shooting, but it has not had any glitches
> >> when it did get wet, but I worry about the motor to camera interface
> >> not being too water tight.  They are both heavy, pretty close
> >> actually, the DMR on the R8 is a bit shorter than the D4.  Turn on is
> >> much slower with the DMR, and so is write speed.  The buffer on the
> >> DMR is very small, where the D4 buffer is vast and you can shoot
> >> rapidly with no problem of the camera slowing down (great for bird in
> >> flight photos), although i would bet Doug would out do it with the
> >> DMR and a single click ;).  The R8DMR is a bit quieter, noise wise,
> >> but the D4 beats the D800 or D700 by light years in this area.  I
> >> prefer the simplicity of the DMR controls over those of the D4,
> >> although the D4 controls are well laid out, when compared to earlier
> >> Nikon DSLRs, and definitely better than Canon DSLRs.  You can get
> >> D4 batteries, where the DMR batteries are rarer than Hen's Teeth, and
> >> must be rebuilt or use an external source if you cannot get them
> >> rebuilt.  The charge also lasts way longer than the DMR's batteries,
> >> although they are not cheap by any measure.  The auto focus on the D4
> >> is simply AMAZING! It locks on very fast and no hunting at all, even
> >> in low light, MF with the D4 and older MF Nikkors is very good also,
> >> as it has a bright view finder (but not as quite as bright as the R8
> >> I think).  MF on the DMR is getting a bit slow with my 64 year old
> >> eyes, but still works good in most light levels. Build for both is
> >> excellent, but would give the D4 a bit of a nod here, due to the
> >> previously mentioned motor to camera body interface of the DMR.  I
> >> will go out this weekend and do a side by side image test of the two,
> >> probably with the 180/2.8 MF Nikkor, and the 180/3.4 R APO lenses
> >> (Similar vintage lenses), don't have any other similar lenses to
> >> compare.  But could do a comparison of my 35~70R zoom and my 24~70
> >> AF-S Nikkor zoom.  Any thing I have not covered, that you would like
> >> to know?
> >>
> >> CHEERS,
> >> Gene
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Frank Filippone" <red735i at verizon.net>
> >> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> >> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 1:22:20 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada
> >> Central
> >> Subject: [Leica] Comparison of DMR to Nikon D800E
> >>
> >> Has anyone seen a comparison of the DMR and the Nikon D800E?  Using
> >> Leica glass, of course.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Frank Filippone
> >>