[Leica] Comparison of DMR to Nikon D800E the cheap nikon 28-80

[john at mcmaster.co.nz (John McMaster)]

That may not sound much difference, but believe me there are few lenses that 
are up to 36MP.... have you shot with one yet?

john

> -----Original Message-----
> 
> We do get lazy when all our results are 1200 pixels on the long side.
> But I am able to view these images as they are taken which is 4256 pixels 
> with
> my D700.
> 
> I've shot around 900 captures in two for me exotic locations in the past 
> two
> weeks with my laptop down I've just seen them for the first time in the 
> past
> few days.
> I'll post one on the Lug gallery if that's possible full size 4256 pixels 
> and you
> can tell me what you think.
> I'm sure at 7360 pixels across on the long side they'd reveal more. Not 
> sure it
> would be a deal maker or breaker or not.
> 7360 is what the d800 gives you.
> 
> 4256 Vs 7360 pixels
> 
> 
> Mark William Rabiner
> Photography
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
> 
> 
> > From: John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz>
> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> > Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 20:44:13 +0000
> > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Comparison of DMR to Nikon D800E the cheap nikon
> > 28-80
> >
> > You may get a shock with some of your lenses if you were to shoot on a
> > D800E......
> >
> > john
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>
> >> For two solid weeks I've been shooting with a normal zoom nikon kit
> >> lens of the pervious film fueled decade.
> >> The Nikon 28-80mm f/3.3-5.6G
> >>
> >> On my D700
> >>
> >> Straight from the dark side:
> >> http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/28-80mm-g.htm
> >>
> >> " The Nikon 28-80mm G is a dinky 7-ounce (190g) plastic zoom with
> >> incredibly good performance."
> >> " Incredible means unbelievable. The performance of this lens is so
> >> good that no one will believe it possibly can come from a lens this 
> >> cheap."
> >>
> >> Cheap means 50 bucks.
> >>
> >> " The Nikkor 28-80mm G is one of Nikon's most popular lenses of all 
> >> time.
> >> Nikon made over a million and a half of these, so you will find them
> >> everywhere. Mine came attached to an N55."
> >>
> >> I bought an N55 so I could get this lens. I used the camera once.
> >>
> >> " The front element is a compound aspherical. This means Nikon glues
> >> a thin plastic corrector over another spherical glass element, giving
> >> the performance of an aspherical lens at a low price"
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Mark William Rabiner
> >> Photography
> >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
> >>
> >>
> >>> From: Aram Langhans <leica_r8 at hotmail.com>
> >>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >>> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 09:55:32 -0800
> >>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Comparison of DMR to Nikon D800E
> >>>
> >>> That's what I have gathered.  But as you say, expensive, and indeed
> heavy.
> >>> One of my prime considerations for lens choice is weight, as I hike
> >>> all over with them.  They could be with me for 10 hours in a day.  I
> >>> thought the
> >>> 35/70 was heavy at one time, but nothing compared to my current
> >>> Nikon
> >>> 24-120/4 I bought at the last minute to substitute for the 35/70
> >>> when I dropped it and broke it a few weeks before a two month trip,
> >>> so I needed something.  the 24/120 was lighter and smaller than the
> >>> 24-70/2.8
> >>>
> >>> Aram
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --------------------------------------------------
> >>> From: <grduprey at mchsi.com>
> >>> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 10:54 PM
> >>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Comparison of DMR to Nikon D800E
> >>>
> >>>> Aram,
> >>>>
> >>>> I will try to do it this weekend.  However, I can tell you the
> >>>> 24/70
> >>>> f2.8 is a real gem of a lens.  Fast focussing, quiet and sharp.
> >>>> Also expensive.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>> Gene
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Aram Langhans" <leica_r8 at hotmail.com>
> >>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> >>>> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 9:01:21 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada
> >>>> Central
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Comparison of DMR to Nikon D800E
> >>>>
> >>>> Would love to see the 35/70 R vs the 24/70 N.  I am considering the
> >>>> D600, but will have to replace my Nikon DX 10-24 with something.
> >>>> In looking at what Nikon has to offer for FF in that range, I
> >>>> cringe at every review when they talk about the massive amount of
> >>>> distortion, or the edge performance.
> >>>> That seems to be universal for zooms with Nikon and Canon and xxxx.
> >>>> But I have never noticed much with the 35/70 R.  But have never
> >>>> done any objective tests.  Hope you have the time to make this
> comparison.
> >>>>
> >>>> Aram
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: grduprey at mchsi.com
> >>>> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 2:50 PM
> >>>> To: Leica Users Group
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Comparison of DMR to Nikon D800E
> >>>>
> >>>> Frank,
> >>>>
> >>>> No I have not seen any comparisons of the DMR and D800E.  Can't
> >>>> comment on the D800, but I do have a D4, and just off the top, the
> >>>> DMR does a fair job against the D4 for an 8? year old design.
> >>>> Although I have not made a side by side comparison of images.  The
> >>>> D4 kills the DMR when it comes to high ISO, and kills just about
> >>>> anything else in that category.  The D4 is very waterproof, from
> >>>> recent experience, where the DMR may not be as good, as I keep it
> >>>> out of the rain when I am not shooting, but it has not had any
> >>>> glitches when it did get wet, but I worry about the motor to camera
> >>>> interface not being too water tight.  They are both heavy, pretty
> >>>> close actually, the DMR on the R8 is a bit shorter than the D4.
> >>>> Turn on is much slower with the DMR, and so is write speed.  The
> >>>> buffer on the DMR is very small, where the D4 buffer is vast and
> >>>> you can shoot rapidly with no problem of the camera slowing down
> >>>> (great for bird in flight photos), although i would bet Doug would
> >>>> out do it with the DMR and a single click ;).  The R8DMR is a bit
> >>>> quieter, noise wise, but the D4 beats the D800 or D700 by light
> >>>> years in this area.  I prefer the simplicity of the DMR controls
> >>>> over those of the D4, although the D4 controls are well laid out,
> >>>> when compared to earlier Nikon DSLRs, and definitely better than
> >>>> Canon DSLRs.  You can get
> >>>> D4 batteries, where the DMR batteries are rarer than Hen's Teeth,
> >>>> and must be rebuilt or use an external source if you cannot get
> >>>> them rebuilt.  The charge also lasts way longer than the DMR's
> >>>> batteries, although they are not cheap by any measure.  The auto
> >>>> focus on the D4 is simply AMAZING! It locks on very fast and no
> >>>> hunting at all, even in low light, MF with the D4 and older MF
> >>>> Nikkors is very good also, as it has a bright view finder (but not
> >>>> as quite as bright as the R8 I think).  MF on the DMR is getting a
> >>>> bit slow with my 64 year old eyes, but still works good in most
> >>>> light levels. Build for both is excellent, but would give the D4 a
> >>>> bit of a nod here, due to the previously mentioned motor to camera
> >>>> body interface of the DMR.  I will go out this weekend and do a
> >>>> side by side image test of the two, probably with the 180/2.8 MF
> >>>> Nikkor, and the 180/3.4 R APO lenses (Similar vintage lenses),
> >>>> don't have any other similar lenses to compare.  But could do a
> >>>> comparison of my 35~70R zoom and my 24~70 AF-S Nikkor zoom.  Any
> >>>> thing I have not covered, that you would like to know?
> >>>>
> >>>> CHEERS,
> >>>> Gene
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Frank Filippone" <red735i at verizon.net>
> >>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> >>>> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 1:22:20 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada
> >>>> Central
> >>>> Subject: [Leica] Comparison of DMR to Nikon D800E
> >>>>
> >>>> Has anyone seen a comparison of the DMR and the Nikon D800E?
> Using
> >>>> Leica glass, of course.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Frank Filippone
> >>>>