Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/11/30

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Subject: [Leica] Cameras Real Pros Use
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2012 00:56:46 -0500

Such an all inclusively withering ideal of what Leica is all about certainly
explains a presence on a Leica list. I think the term is "troll".
Perhaps the rules on the lug should be tightened to people who may not own a
Leica but would like to one day.  And not to people who have never owned a
Leica and am glad of it.
And that of course is exceedingly loose.
We really do get from a few people on the lug the ideal expounded that the
last place in a million years they'd ever waste their money would be in
Leica gear I'll go down in declaring my opinion they should be freed to go
elsewhere. Or as the title of a book I enjoyed reading a while back:
?It Would Be So Nice If You Weren?t Here? (Charles Grodin)

Mark William Rabiner
Photography
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/


> From: Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 15:18:40 +1000
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Cameras Real Pros Use
> 
> Jayanand, people that chose to buy Leica are clueless!!??
> I dispute your 'simple fact' that none of us are their target market 
> either.
> Where is this analysis about oligarchs that keep the company in the black?
> 
> Those are silly characterisations, generalisations or recycled internet
> chatter absent supporting facts.
> Never mind, another cycle of threads has begun. Have at it again..
> 
> Cheers,
> Geoff
> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
> 
> 
> 
> On 1 December 2012 12:10, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Phil, Douglas,
>> As someone with over 35 years experience of analyzing company behaviour, I
>> would say that none of us represent the market that Leica are targeting
>> nowadays. Simple fact. I am not saying what they are doing is wrong, in
>> fact I think their focus is absolutely right. Do you think they can 
>> survive
>> on what we all collectively buy new every year? No, it is the oligarchs
>> that keep the company in the black - be grateful for the clueless. In that
>> sort of luxury market, unfortunately, the end sale prices are directly
>> related to what the market will bear, and not to the costs involved. With
>> their finite resources, I doubt that they can handle the costs of R&D and
>> marketing in too many different niches.
>> Cheers
>> Jayanand
>> 
>> 
> 
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