Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/04/14
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]The fit is too tight to shim more than a slice of the duct tape and the result does not improve significantly, if at all. One thing to keep in mind is that I shoot with my XPan 30mm all the time and I use an external viewfinder there too, and I have gotten pretty good at leveling the camera even just by feel. Oh the XPan VF that I use? The Zeiss 15mm finder. I just bought VC 25mm finder for $125. If you want to pay me $125, you can have the dang Zeiss finder to play with and see if you can get it working, but I'm not going to send the it to Zeiss and have them charge me big money to have it repaired now. On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Phil Forrest <photo.forrest at earthlink.net>wrote: > There also exists the possibility that the M9 shoe is tilted. > Since the finders are held into the shoe with upward spring tension, > the whole shoe could be tilted or one side could be bent up or down in > one direction thus causing the finder tilt. I would take only .2mm > probably to get a significant rotation of the finder. Of course, you > already tried it with a few different finders and may have ruled this > out. > So why not just shim the top of the finder foot by .1 or so millimeter > to fix the issue yourself? The CV finders are not good in comparison to > the Zeiss. It's like going from Leica to Holga viewfinders. Even the > Leica viewfinders pale in comparison. It's definitely worth having > repaired. If not, I'll gladly relieve you of that annoying > viewfinder. :) > > Phil Forrest > > > On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 02:12:17 +1000 > Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote: > > > Richard you bought the finder used? If so perhaps the reason it was > > sold on? Did you try it since on another M9? Someone else's eyeballs > > get the same result with it on your M9? > > The comment re different results due to different flash shoe off set > > puzzles me. You could get a parallax error in theory (but then the > > framelines are only a guide anyway) but tilt ? Only if the shoe or > > finder is mis-aligned surely? > > > > I have bought a number of times from Popflash too and their service > > has been uniformly excellent. > > > > You won't want to to know then about the Zeiss ZM lens I got from > > Hong Kong that I wanted modified to bring up different frame-lines > > (when I had my M8). Popflash volunteered to send it to Zeiss USA for > > me. Zeiss USA sent it to Germany for me where it was modified.. > > Popflash charged me only for the internal USA freight at cost and > > Zeiss nothing at all. > > > > Cheers, > > Geoff > > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman > > > > > > > > On 15 April 2012 01:03, Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com> > > wrote: > > > > > I know the risk and I am prepared to pay to have it fixed - until > > > the arrogant SoB.... So I am going to just buy a Voigtlander from > > > Popflash. They are in SoCal and if there's something wrong, I'm > > > sure they will stand behind it. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 7:47 AM, Frank Filippone > > > <red735i at earthlink.net > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > This is a problem with buying used through mail order... you > > > > never get to see the stuff before it is received.... You will > > > > get some stuff that is just "off". > > > > It is offset part of saving $$$ by buying used. > > > > > > > > Find someone to take it apart and try to fix it ( I would guess > > > > there is something adjustable inside) or > > > > Sell it off and buy another. Or > > > > Ram it up their customer service > > > > > > > > BTW, I too would be frustrated by the response from customer > > > > service..... > > > > > > > > And worse yet, the stuff about "confidential conversation".... > > > > what a > > > way > > > > to try to cover up bad customer service..... I would pay no > > > > attention to it... and tell the truth.. what, they are going to > > > > sue you for telling > > > the > > > > world they were jerks? By doing so, they compound the problem, > > > > big > > > time. > > > > > > > > Give em Hell..... the Internet has gone a long way to fix > > > > problems like this..... bad publicity is bad for business.... > > > > > > > > Intel processors that can not add correctly, M8 cameras which can > > > > not properly replicate certain black fabrics, lots more issues > > > > get fixed when you ram it home.... > > > > > > > > Frank Filippone > > > > Red735i at earthlink.net > > > > > > > > So I emailed the Zeiss support about the obvious tilt on my 25mm > > > viewfinder > > > > *http://richardmanphoto.com/PICS/20120412-L1010049.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, the Zeiss support basically says, "too bad, the Zeiss VF > > > > is not designed to be used with the M9. The VF is not defective, > > > > it sucks to be you." (not direct quote because I am not suppose > > > > to copy and paste "confidential conversation." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Leica Users Group. > > > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > > > > information > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Leica Users Group. > > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > -- > philforrest.wordpress.com > gallery.leica-users.org/v/philforrest > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>