Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/01/31
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Yep! My Contax G2 (I still use film) which looks really point and shooty works great in Rockefeller Center. On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>wrote: > Yes its not PHOTOGRAPHY which annoys the authorities often its > PHOTOGRAPHERS. And even before digital its my understanding that photo > journalists had little point and shoots in the bottom of their bags but not > as a so called "back up" But in situations where a small amateur camera is > more digestible by the situation. So they are in effect passing as amateurs > and people who shoot for fun are thought of as being non threatening to the > powers that be. > I'd say the powers that be are wrong. > With a cell phone in every hand and a camera and video in every cell phone > the powers that be have to watch it. Becuae they are being watched. > Accountability has struck. > > -- > Mark R. > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/ > > > > From: Lew Schwartz <lew1716 at gmail.com> > > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > > Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 11:16:11 -0500 > > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > > Subject: Re: [Leica] Photographic Freedom > > > > The first amendment may be upheld in some courts, but it isn't on the > > streets. I agree on the cell phone issue, but I've been to stop > > photographing more than once because my equipment looks too professional > or > > commercial. > > > > On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com > >wrote: > > > >> The privacy thing gets lots of play. Lots of mileage. Over here in the > US > >> its been a leading contender to the heavyweight champ the first > amendment > >> but for some odd reason the first amendment never looses a match. Even > the > >> so called right of privacy hype. > >> I can of course mainly not speak for England but for the US of A of > which > >> I'm much more familiar despite hours of listening to the BBC and reading > >> the > >> entire oeuvre of John Le Carr?. - and Benny Hill. > >> Tonight I'm going to see Coriolanus. > >> > >> I'm encouraged by the cell phone users taking pix and movies of every > >> darned > >> thing as it happens. Keeps the governments in check. > >> Politicians know people will NOT STAND for having any form of smart > phone > >> use toned down. The hearts and minds of the people lay in their smart > >> phones. Something goes down. Its on the news in minutes. Democracy in > >> action. I'm encouraged. > >> > >> -- > >> Mark R. > >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/ > >> > >> > >>> From: Lew Schwartz <lew1716 at gmail.com> > >>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > >>> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 10:34:52 -0500 > >>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Photographic Freedom > >>> > >>> I think you are wrong here, Mark. True, many pieces of legislation are > >>> proposed for the purpose of currying favor with constituents and not > for > >>> their practical or legal value ... the anti-gay stuff coming out of NJ > >>> right now is a pathetic > >>> example. For photographers and photographs, however, the invasion of > >>> privacy card pretty much trumps everything, and it's being selectively > >>> enforced in lots of places. 70's style street photography was the best > >> form > >>> of social criticism and insight we've ever had, but this is out of > favor > >>> now. Even on this list, I'm sure that most of the members find the 70's > >>> idea intrusive and opprobrious. > >>> I add, by way of contradiction, that I don't mind being asked for id > by > >>> city police. They are in a tough position and I know a number of them > >>> personally. > >>> > >>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at > >>> rabinergroup.com> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>>> The purpose of such draconian proposals is not to get them passed. But > >> to > >>>> impress a politicians constituents. Nobody really thinkgs the thing > >> will > >>>> pass or stay in place as a law very long. > >>>> It gets votes and incurs favor to make sweeping hateful statements. > >>>> For a decade now the easy ones to pick on are the photographers. We > are > >> the > >>>> new monsters. Not Dracula, Frankenstein. > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Mark R. > >>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> From: Bob Shaw <rsphotoimages at comcast.net> > >>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > >>>>> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 16:04:18 -0800 > >>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > >>>>> Cc: Olympus Camera Discussion <olympus at thomasclausen.net>, Nikon > >>>> D1scussion > >>>>> List <d1scussion at list.d1scussion.com> > >>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Photographic Freedom > >>>>> > >>>>> Proclamation! > >>>> > >>>> Hopefully > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Leica Users Group. > >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >>>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Leica Users Group. > >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >