[Leica] Photographic Freedom

[lew1716 at gmail.com (Lew Schwartz)]

The first amendment may be upheld in some courts, but it isn't on the
streets. I agree on the cell phone issue, but I've been to stop
photographing more than once because my equipment looks too professional or
commercial.

On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at 
rabinergroup.com>wrote:

> The  privacy thing gets lots of play. Lots of mileage. Over here in the US
> its been a leading contender to the heavyweight champ the first amendment
> but for some odd reason the first amendment never looses a match. Even the
> so called right of privacy hype.
> I can of course mainly not speak for England but for the US of A of which
> I'm much more familiar despite hours of listening to the BBC and reading
> the
> entire oeuvre of John Le Carr?.  - and Benny Hill.
> Tonight I'm going to see Coriolanus.
>
> I'm encouraged by the cell phone users taking pix and movies of every
> darned
> thing as it happens. Keeps the governments in check.
> Politicians know people will NOT STAND for having any form of smart phone
> use toned down. The hearts and minds of the people lay in their smart
> phones. Something goes down. Its on the news in minutes. Democracy in
> action. I'm encouraged.
>
> --
> Mark R.
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/
>
>
> > From: Lew Schwartz <lew1716 at gmail.com>
> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> > Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 10:34:52 -0500
> > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Photographic Freedom
> >
> > I think you are wrong here, Mark. True, many pieces of legislation are
> > proposed for the purpose of currying favor with constituents and not for
> > their practical or legal value ... the anti-gay stuff coming out of NJ
> > right now is a pathetic
> > example. For photographers and photographs, however, the invasion of
> > privacy card pretty much trumps everything, and it's being selectively
> > enforced in lots of places. 70's style street photography was the best
> form
> > of social criticism and insight we've ever had, but this is out of favor
> > now. Even on this list, I'm sure that most of the members find the 70's
> > idea intrusive and opprobrious.
> >   I add, by way of contradiction, that I don't mind being asked for id by
> > city police. They are in a tough position and I know a number of them
> > personally.
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> The purpose of such draconian proposals is not to get them passed. But
> to
> >> impress  a politicians constituents. Nobody really thinkgs the thing
> will
> >> pass or stay in place as a law very long.
> >> It gets votes and incurs favor to make sweeping hateful statements.
> >> For a decade now the easy ones to pick on are the photographers. We are
> the
> >> new monsters. Not Dracula, Frankenstein.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Mark R.
> >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/
> >>
> >>
> >>> From: Bob Shaw <rsphotoimages at comcast.net>
> >>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >>> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 16:04:18 -0800
> >>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >>> Cc: Olympus Camera Discussion <olympus at thomasclausen.net>, Nikon
> >> D1scussion
> >>> List <d1scussion at list.d1scussion.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Photographic Freedom
> >>>
> >>> Proclamation!
> >>
> >> Hopefully
> >>
> >>
> >>
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