Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/01/31
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Yes its not PHOTOGRAPHY which annoys the authorities often its PHOTOGRAPHERS. And even before digital its my understanding that photo journalists had little point and shoots in the bottom of their bags but not as a so called "back up" But in situations where a small amateur camera is more digestible by the situation. So they are in effect passing as amateurs and people who shoot for fun are thought of as being non threatening to the powers that be. I'd say the powers that be are wrong. With a cell phone in every hand and a camera and video in every cell phone the powers that be have to watch it. Becuae they are being watched. Accountability has struck. -- Mark R. http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/ > From: Lew Schwartz <lew1716 at gmail.com> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 11:16:11 -0500 > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Photographic Freedom > > The first amendment may be upheld in some courts, but it isn't on the > streets. I agree on the cell phone issue, but I've been to stop > photographing more than once because my equipment looks too professional or > commercial. > > On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at > rabinergroup.com>wrote: > >> The privacy thing gets lots of play. Lots of mileage. Over here in the US >> its been a leading contender to the heavyweight champ the first amendment >> but for some odd reason the first amendment never looses a match. Even the >> so called right of privacy hype. >> I can of course mainly not speak for England but for the US of A of which >> I'm much more familiar despite hours of listening to the BBC and reading >> the >> entire oeuvre of John Le Carr?. - and Benny Hill. >> Tonight I'm going to see Coriolanus. >> >> I'm encouraged by the cell phone users taking pix and movies of every >> darned >> thing as it happens. Keeps the governments in check. >> Politicians know people will NOT STAND for having any form of smart phone >> use toned down. The hearts and minds of the people lay in their smart >> phones. Something goes down. Its on the news in minutes. Democracy in >> action. I'm encouraged. >> >> -- >> Mark R. >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/ >> >> >>> From: Lew Schwartz <lew1716 at gmail.com> >>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 10:34:52 -0500 >>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Photographic Freedom >>> >>> I think you are wrong here, Mark. True, many pieces of legislation are >>> proposed for the purpose of currying favor with constituents and not for >>> their practical or legal value ... the anti-gay stuff coming out of NJ >>> right now is a pathetic >>> example. For photographers and photographs, however, the invasion of >>> privacy card pretty much trumps everything, and it's being selectively >>> enforced in lots of places. 70's style street photography was the best >> form >>> of social criticism and insight we've ever had, but this is out of favor >>> now. Even on this list, I'm sure that most of the members find the 70's >>> idea intrusive and opprobrious. >>> I add, by way of contradiction, that I don't mind being asked for id by >>> city police. They are in a tough position and I know a number of them >>> personally. >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >> wrote: >>> >>>> The purpose of such draconian proposals is not to get them passed. But >> to >>>> impress a politicians constituents. Nobody really thinkgs the thing >> will >>>> pass or stay in place as a law very long. >>>> It gets votes and incurs favor to make sweeping hateful statements. >>>> For a decade now the easy ones to pick on are the photographers. We are >> the >>>> new monsters. Not Dracula, Frankenstein. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mark R. >>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/ >>>> >>>> >>>>> From: Bob Shaw <rsphotoimages at comcast.net> >>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 16:04:18 -0800 >>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>> Cc: Olympus Camera Discussion <olympus at thomasclausen.net>, Nikon >>>> D1scussion >>>>> List <d1scussion at list.d1scussion.com> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Photographic Freedom >>>>> >>>>> Proclamation! >>>> >>>> Hopefully >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information