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Subject: [Leica] Photoshop guru needed
From: kcarney1 at cox.net (Ken Carney)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 20:56:59 -0500
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Thanks, Lluis

Yes, the vignette is too strong - I will reduce.

Best and thanks to all of you.

Ken

On 6/30/2011 8:28 PM, Lluis Ripoll wrote:
> Much better Ken, now I find it a terririf picture, a really outstanding.
>
> Maybe I will reduce a little the vignetting effet on the up corners
>
> Saludos
> Lluis
>
> El 01/07/2011, a las 2:37, Ken Carney escribi?:
>
>> Here is another try:
>>
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/kcarney/CRW_1654trial.jpg.html
>>
>> It is just a trial.  I didn't do a very good job of cutting the mask, 
>> and the rooster's "colors" are off, but I can work on it some.  The 
>> adobe wall behind him is from the St. Francis of Assisi church in 
>> NM.  Probably all kinds of heresy going on here.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> On 6/30/2011 5:14 PM, Ken Carney wrote:
>>> Thanks to both of you for the suggestions.  It was my fault not to 
>>> locate a better background - to tell the truth I was in a bit of a 
>>> hurry to get out of there.  I do need to bring out detail in the 
>>> rooster.    I did punch up the contrast, but that's the way I saw 
>>> the image - sort of gritty.  It is a scan from a Kodachrome 25 
>>> converted to b&w in Nik Silver Efex2.  Actually, now that I think of 
>>> it, the best solution is just to mask the background and put him in 
>>> front of a stone wall or similar.   Back to the drawing board once 
>>> more.
>>>
>>> Ken
>>>
>>> On 6/29/2011 10:27 PM, Slobodan Dimitrov wrote:
>>>> That's the problem with grab shots, no lighting control.
>>>> If the guy was accommodating, as it appears he was, you could of 
>>>> walked him over to a better location, within a 20-30 foot radius.
>>>> I pulled it off the page and ran it through PS. While there are a 
>>>> few tweezes that can be can done, it looked essentially the same. 
>>>> The flare on the shoulder was easy to take care of. But it's all 
>>>> those areas in the background that are really tedious to deal with. 
>>>> Also, the chicken is too flat.
>>>> Then there's always the old standby, when in doubt, flash fill.
>>>> Scene fidelity tests, as a rule of thumb, should always be done 
>>>> prior to any shooting, per specific location. It doesn't matter if 
>>>> it's an auditorium, or a beach scape (which I dealt with over the 
>>>> past 24 hours).
>>>> The custom space, sometimes marked C on a wheel, should be used to 
>>>> save key settings for lighting situation you're already familiar with.
>>>> On paper, Mark, I would of printed it with a 3 filter, and then 
>>>> burned the face slightly with the #5, to separate the values.
>>>> S.d.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 29, 2011, at 8:06 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think that there is no information in that area what so ever and 
>>>>> you are
>>>>> right drying to darken it would make it worse. Though I'd lower 
>>>>> the contrast
>>>>> of the entire pic by quite a bit and that might help a bit.
>>>>> Some Photoshop major players would experiment with "cloning" in 
>>>>> detail from
>>>>> the pattern of the jacket. I'm sure if it came to that that could 
>>>>> be done.
>>>>> The image really to me looks way  jacked up in contrast like it 
>>>>> could have
>>>>> been printed on 3 but you've printed it on Brovira 6.
>>>>>
>>>>> It looks like a scan from print. Can you find the neg and give it 
>>>>> a go from
>>>>> that?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>>>> Photography
>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>>>>> Cars:   http://tinyurl.com/2f7ptxb
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Ken Carney<kcarney1 at cox.net>
>>>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group<lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>>> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 19:02:38 -0500
>>>>>> To: Leica Users Group<lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>>> Subject: [Leica] Photoshop guru needed
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LUG:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here is an image I would like to print, but there is a flaw.  
>>>>>> There is a
>>>>>> flare on the right shoulder of the dude holding the fighting 
>>>>>> chicken.  I
>>>>>> would like to get rid of it, but so far nothing has worked.  Perhaps
>>>>>> nothing will work since there is no detail at all there.  I remember
>>>>>> Ansel Adam's photo of the Pioneer Woman, where he regretted the 
>>>>>> blown
>>>>>> out area on her shoulder, but concluded any fix would just worsen 
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>> Of course, Ansel did not have PS for better or for worse.  Thanks 
>>>>>> very
>>>>>> much for any suggestions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/kcarney/Haiti+fighting+cocksBW2.jpg.html
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ken
>>>>>> (I took this with the fabled Summicron f/2 - how come there is 
>>>>>> something
>>>>>> less than perfect?)
>>>>>>
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