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Subject: [Leica] Photoshop guru needed
From: kcarney1 at cox.net (Ken Carney)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 17:14:24 -0500
References: <CA316082.11037%mark@rabinergroup.com> <4F76CACB-98AF-4893-B0F8-0A1AAB2D5AB2@charter.net>

Thanks to both of you for the suggestions.  It was my fault not to 
locate a better background - to tell the truth I was in a bit of a hurry 
to get out of there.  I do need to bring out detail in the rooster.    I 
did punch up the contrast, but that's the way I saw the image - sort of 
gritty.  It is a scan from a Kodachrome 25 converted to b&w in Nik 
Silver Efex2.  Actually, now that I think of it, the best solution is 
just to mask the background and put him in front of a stone wall or 
similar.   Back to the drawing board once more.

Ken

On 6/29/2011 10:27 PM, Slobodan Dimitrov wrote:
> That's the problem with grab shots, no lighting control.
> If the guy was accommodating, as it appears he was, you could of walked 
> him over to a better location, within a 20-30 foot radius.
> I pulled it off the page and ran it through PS. While there are a few 
> tweezes that can be can done, it looked essentially the same. The flare on 
> the shoulder was easy to take care of. But it's all those areas in the 
> background that are really tedious to deal with. Also, the chicken is too 
> flat.
> Then there's always the old standby, when in doubt, flash fill.
> Scene fidelity tests, as a rule of thumb, should always be done prior to 
> any shooting, per specific location. It doesn't matter if it's an 
> auditorium, or a beach scape (which I dealt with over the past 24 hours).
> The custom space, sometimes marked C on a wheel, should be used to save 
> key settings for lighting situation you're already familiar with.
> On paper, Mark, I would of printed it with a 3 filter, and then burned the 
> face slightly with the #5, to separate the values.
> S.d.
>
>
> On Jun 29, 2011, at 8:06 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>
>> I think that there is no information in that area what so ever and you are
>> right drying to darken it would make it worse. Though I'd lower the 
>> contrast
>> of the entire pic by quite a bit and that might help a bit.
>> Some Photoshop major players would experiment with "cloning" in detail 
>> from
>> the pattern of the jacket. I'm sure if it came to that that could be done.
>> The image really to me looks way  jacked up in contrast like it could have
>> been printed on 3 but you've printed it on Brovira 6.
>>
>> It looks like a scan from print. Can you find the neg and give it a go 
>> from
>> that?
>>
>>
>> Mark William Rabiner
>> Photography
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>> Cars:   http://tinyurl.com/2f7ptxb
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: Ken Carney<kcarney1 at cox.net>
>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group<lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 19:02:38 -0500
>>> To: Leica Users Group<lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Subject: [Leica] Photoshop guru needed
>>>
>>> LUG:
>>>
>>> Here is an image I would like to print, but there is a flaw.  There is a
>>> flare on the right shoulder of the dude holding the fighting chicken.  I
>>> would like to get rid of it, but so far nothing has worked.  Perhaps
>>> nothing will work since there is no detail at all there.  I remember
>>> Ansel Adam's photo of the Pioneer Woman, where he regretted the blown
>>> out area on her shoulder, but concluded any fix would just worsen it.
>>> Of course, Ansel did not have PS for better or for worse.  Thanks very
>>> much for any suggestions.
>>>
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/kcarney/Haiti+fighting+cocksBW2.jpg.html
>>>
>>> Ken
>>> (I took this with the fabled Summicron f/2 - how come there is something
>>> less than perfect?)
>>>
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Replies: Reply from kcarney1 at cox.net (Ken Carney) ([Leica] Photoshop guru needed)
In reply to: Message from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] Photoshop guru needed)
Message from s.dimitrov at charter.net (Slobodan Dimitrov) ([Leica] Photoshop guru needed)