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Subject: [Leica] Photoshop guru needed
From: lluisripollquerol at gmail.com (Lluis Ripoll)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 03:28:45 +0200
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Much better Ken, now I find it a terririf picture, a really outstanding.

Maybe I will reduce a little the vignetting effet on the up corners

Saludos
Lluis

El 01/07/2011, a las 2:37, Ken Carney escribi?:

> Here is another try:
>
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/kcarney/CRW_1654trial.jpg.html
>
> It is just a trial.  I didn't do a very good job of cutting the  
> mask, and the rooster's "colors" are off, but I can work on it  
> some.  The adobe wall behind him is from the St. Francis of Assisi  
> church in NM.  Probably all kinds of heresy going on here.
>
> Ken
>
> On 6/30/2011 5:14 PM, Ken Carney wrote:
>> Thanks to both of you for the suggestions.  It was my fault not to  
>> locate a better background - to tell the truth I was in a bit of a  
>> hurry to get out of there.  I do need to bring out detail in the  
>> rooster.    I did punch up the contrast, but that's the way I saw  
>> the image - sort of gritty.  It is a scan from a Kodachrome 25  
>> converted to b&w in Nik Silver Efex2.  Actually, now that I think  
>> of it, the best solution is just to mask the background and put him  
>> in front of a stone wall or similar.   Back to the drawing board  
>> once more.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> On 6/29/2011 10:27 PM, Slobodan Dimitrov wrote:
>>> That's the problem with grab shots, no lighting control.
>>> If the guy was accommodating, as it appears he was, you could of  
>>> walked him over to a better location, within a 20-30 foot radius.
>>> I pulled it off the page and ran it through PS. While there are a  
>>> few tweezes that can be can done, it looked essentially the same.  
>>> The flare on the shoulder was easy to take care of. But it's all  
>>> those areas in the background that are really tedious to deal  
>>> with. Also, the chicken is too flat.
>>> Then there's always the old standby, when in doubt, flash fill.
>>> Scene fidelity tests, as a rule of thumb, should always be done  
>>> prior to any shooting, per specific location. It doesn't matter if  
>>> it's an auditorium, or a beach scape (which I dealt with over the  
>>> past 24 hours).
>>> The custom space, sometimes marked C on a wheel, should be used to  
>>> save key settings for lighting situation you're already familiar  
>>> with.
>>> On paper, Mark, I would of printed it with a 3 filter, and then  
>>> burned the face slightly with the #5, to separate the values.
>>> S.d.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 29, 2011, at 8:06 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think that there is no information in that area what so ever  
>>>> and you are
>>>> right drying to darken it would make it worse. Though I'd lower  
>>>> the contrast
>>>> of the entire pic by quite a bit and that might help a bit.
>>>> Some Photoshop major players would experiment with "cloning" in  
>>>> detail from
>>>> the pattern of the jacket. I'm sure if it came to that that could  
>>>> be done.
>>>> The image really to me looks way  jacked up in contrast like it  
>>>> could have
>>>> been printed on 3 but you've printed it on Brovira 6.
>>>>
>>>> It looks like a scan from print. Can you find the neg and give it  
>>>> a go from
>>>> that?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>>> Photography
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>>>> Cars:   http://tinyurl.com/2f7ptxb
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From: Ken Carney<kcarney1 at cox.net>
>>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group<lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 19:02:38 -0500
>>>>> To: Leica Users Group<lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>> Subject: [Leica] Photoshop guru needed
>>>>>
>>>>> LUG:
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is an image I would like to print, but there is a flaw.   
>>>>> There is a
>>>>> flare on the right shoulder of the dude holding the fighting  
>>>>> chicken.  I
>>>>> would like to get rid of it, but so far nothing has worked.   
>>>>> Perhaps
>>>>> nothing will work since there is no detail at all there.  I  
>>>>> remember
>>>>> Ansel Adam's photo of the Pioneer Woman, where he regretted the  
>>>>> blown
>>>>> out area on her shoulder, but concluded any fix would just  
>>>>> worsen it.
>>>>> Of course, Ansel did not have PS for better or for worse.   
>>>>> Thanks very
>>>>> much for any suggestions.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/kcarney/Haiti+fighting+cocksBW2.jpg.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Ken
>>>>> (I took this with the fabled Summicron f/2 - how come there is  
>>>>> something
>>>>> less than perfect?)
>>>>>
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Replies: Reply from kcarney1 at cox.net (Ken Carney) ([Leica] Photoshop guru needed)
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