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Subject: [Leica] 80 Summilux R (was 'Am I being stupid? (R content)')
From: hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson)
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 11:23:14 +1000
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Since that 75 is my favourite lens of all, I can confirm and add to what
Marty has explained there, The APO 75 in fact focuses significantly closer
too (nominally .7m but mine goes closer). The reproduction ratio is 1:7 vs.
1:9 for that 90. That means a minimum field width of 10 inches for the 75 vs
13 inches for the 90. So it is quite a difference despite the shorter focal
length.  It is also much more compact and lighter too.  I don't know about
prices where you are but here at least the 75 is actually "cheaper" new than
the 90. I don't have any current used prices comparisons. There are other 90
options, used at least, of course if that is the length you want. The
viewfinder frames are easier to use than those for the 75, btw.
Anyway some 75 samples if you are interested. I just went out into some
fairly fierce mid morning light and shot some more close ups vs. my (Macro
Elmar) 90. I think that you will be surprised. I'll post some uncropped
comparisons soon
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/image/119381979
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/image/118188935
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/image/101824440
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/image/101180894
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/image/119520958

Cheers
Geoff
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman


On 7 November 2010 09:46, Tim Gray <tgray at 125px.com> wrote:

> On Nov 07, 2010 at 09:43 AM +1030, Marty Deveney wrote:
>
>> The 90 APO is very impressive, but at portrait distances it is less
>> impressive than further away - the absence of a floating element
>> starts to show and there is noticeable curvature of field.  This was
>> the motivation for the design used in the 75 Summicron, which focuses
>> to 0.75 m and gets you a tighter crop, and is the M lens I'd recommend
>> if you'd like a very modern rendering lens for portraits.
>>
>
> The 75 Summicron is too close for me to my 50 ASPH.  And too expensive.
>  I'd never be able to figure out which one I wanted to use at the moment.
>
> While 80 is close to 75, 1.4 is faster than 2 (useful at times) and I would
> imagine 80/1.4 is easier to focus on an SLR than is the 75 Summilux on M
> (which is also too expensive for me).
>
> One other thing I hadn't mentioned.  I would imagine my girlfriend will be
> using this a bit if I get it.  And she doesn't get along with rangefinders
> at all.  I think she takes good pictures with them, but she much prefers
> using SLRs.  Go figure.
>
>
> I kept the Nikkor but returned the test sample 80 Summilux because I
>> like the F3 better than any of the R cameras and I already have a
>> bunch of other Nikon SLR lenses.
>>
>
> Very nice pictures.  Thanks for sharing those.
>
>
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