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Subject: [Leica] OT: Good Bokeh?
From: benedenia at gmail.com (Marty Deveney)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 13:34:40 +0930
References: <v2gdaaeb97e1004172312md9e6dc0fk6878be709094d38b@mail.gmail.com> <F49DA823-3821-4D24-98BD-218ED5F08B2A@mac.com> <y2wdaaeb97e1004181220s5d7b9bd3oa65499b6db82cbcc@mail.gmail.com> <B9056380-1806-4679-AECB-576A074B5572@mac.com> <h2odaaeb97e1004181647pf1daa320l9f631412b94a4fa9@mail.gmail.com> <q2pee8fa51c1004181801p3cca3ef9y749e0bd7961ccf4b@mail.gmail.com> <h2g19b6d42d1004182046zf7cb98e0ve7785bd058e9ebed@mail.gmail.com>

Don't get me wrong - I have a 200/4 micro Nikkor and regard it as a
great lens.  I have very few lenses that can be used with impunity and
where I can be sure that I will like the results.  My much favoured
50/1 Noctilux occasionally produces incredible swirly backgrounds that
leave me feeling vertiginous.  Nothing's perfect.

Marty

On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Vince Passaro <passaro.vince at gmail.com> 
wrote:
> Jim --
>
> Do not despair at all of the Nikkor 200/4. It is a great lens and what it 
> is
> great at you can see in the picture: sharpness and color and detail. I do
> not recall anyone ever praising the bokeh of any lens of this length 
> (though
> no doubt some deserve it and I suspect we could easily hear from Doug about
> that two-fitty of his.... ). There is nothing bad about the bokeh here
> except the brightness of highlights which does all kinds of mischief with
> the picture. Still, go enjoy this lens. (Even better on a Nikon DX crop if
> you got one.)
>
> V
>
> On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Marty Deveney <benedenia at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
>> Wide open adds another factor to the "worst case scenario" of this
>> shot. ?Very difficult.
>>
>> Marty
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 9:17 AM, James Laird <digiratidoc at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > George,
>> >
>> > Yes, I'm pretty sure it was taken at f4. It was dusk and light was
>> > fading. I'll try it again stopped down.
>> >
>> > Jim
>> >
>> > On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 4:48 PM, George Lottermoser <imagist3 at 
>> > mac.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> was the sample you posted wide open?
>> >> have you tried it at other f stops?
>> >> just curious.
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> George Lottermoser
>> >> george at imagist.com
>> >> http://www.imagist.com
>> >> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>> >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>> >>
>> >> On Apr 18, 2010, at 2:20 PM, James Laird wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> George,
>> >>>
>> >>> I see what you mean. I thought it was moderately good bokeh when I
>> >>> first took it. But as you say it's all subjective. Oh well, I only
>> >>> paid 49 bucks for it. Maybe I can get a Leica R 200 some day for that
>> >>> price (in my dreams;)
>> >>>
>> >>> Jim Laird
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 11:53 AM, George Lottermoser <imagist3 at 
>> >>> mac.com
>> >
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> obviously subjective
>> >>>> but I find the bokeh
>> >>>> quite disturbing
>> >>>> reminds me of the glass
>> >>>> used in some bathroom windows.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Regards,
>> >>>> George Lottermoser
>> >>>> george at imagist.com
>> >>>> http://www.imagist.com
>> >>>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>> >>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Apr 18, 2010, at 1:12 AM, James Laird wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Trying out my 'new' Nikkor 200 f4 on my GH1 I took this:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> <
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/digiratidoc/GH1/Nikkor-200f4-Bokeh.jpg.html
>> >
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Now I think this is great bokeh. Agree?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Jim Laird
>> >>>>>
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