Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/03/29
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]On Mar 29, 2010, at 8:56 PM, Vince Passaro wrote: > Yeah maybe one day. But I also like the possibility that I've confirmed I > was right the first time. > > Plus I have a sentimental attachment to Kodak and a distaste for Ilford. > Photographer I worked for in the early 80s sent me out by goddam Port > Authority bus and shank's mare as my grandmother used to say on a blasting > summer day to some god awful corporate castle in New Jersey of Ilford's to > pick up some kind of special paper he wanted. Then he was pissed it took me > so long. I'm talking like a mile and a half in blank Jersey industrial park > at 96 degrees. Then bus. > > So it's hard to love Ilford. > > Meanwhile people ask other's people's opinions here ALL THE TIME SO WHAT'S > THE BIG DEAL ALLUVA SUDDEN? that you sound serious... Steve > > On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at > gmail.com>wrote: > >> >> On Mar 29, 2010, at 8:49 PM, Vince Passaro wrote: >> >>> Cause back when I was using it I didn't know shit. I still don't know >> shit >>> but I know a little more shit now. If there had been this overwhelming >>> universal positive response to the Ilford -- if people said OMG it's the >>> Panasonic 20mm f/1.7 pancake of color-process black and white film OMG >>> OMG!!!--- then I would have tried it once or twice more to see if I liked >> it >>> any better. >> >> >> so try both now.... >> >> >> Steve >> >> >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 11:36 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at >>> gmail.com >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On Mar 29, 2010, at 8:32 PM, Vince Passaro wrote: >>>> >>>>> Nah you misunderstood: "that's why I'm asking people's opinion's...." >>>> about >>>>> which one they think is best. The Kodak or the Ilford. Kodak seems to >> be >>>>> winning which was my experience. The Ilford was too low contrast in my >>>>> experience. >>>> >>>> who cares "what people think", it only matters what you think... >>>> >>>> basically... >>>> >>>> >>>> Steve >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 11:07 PM, Steve Barbour < >> steve.barbour at gmail.com >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 29, 2010, at 8:05 PM, Vince Passaro wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I lvoe Tri X but cannot process it myself and find it increasingly >>>>>> expensive >>>>>>> to have it done. The C41s can be done anywhere by anybody and put on >>>>>> disk. >>>>>>> That's why I'm asking people's opinions. >>>>>> >>>>>> C41bw is terrific for the reasons stated, what's to ask ?... >>>>>> >>>>>> it's clear, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Steve >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Ken Carney <kcarney1 at cox.net> >> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 3/28/2010 12:13 AM, Vince Passaro wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm contemplating C41 b and w film. I've used the Kodak and liked >> it >>>>>>>>> sometimes and not others (dependong on factors I was too ignorant >> to >>>>>> learn >>>>>>>>> how to control at the time, I suspect). My impression though was >> that >>>>>>>>> Koday >>>>>>>>> was the best of them but I do recollect an Ilford that some people >>>>>>>>> liked... >>>>>>>>> perhaps it was that 50 ASA of theirs? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Anyone using C41 and feel knowledgeable and opinionated enough to >>>>>> declare >>>>>>>>> differences and preferences? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Or, here's another question: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I see on B&H site that there's a Mamiya medium format digital >> camera >>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> under $10K, called the DM22. Anyone know about it, have an opinon, >>>> etc? >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> the price it comes with an 80mm lens, which I guess is kind of an >>>>>>>>> equivalent >>>>>>>>> to normal size lens? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> And finally: among you GF1 fanatics out there -- does anyone know >> why >>>>>> you >>>>>>>>> can buy the GF! with the 20mm as a kit in Europe but, after a brief >>>>>>>>> availablility, not here? (here being the good ole' US of A folks. >>>> TGeam >>>>>>>>> America. Burn the camera in order to save it. Semper Fi. all >> that.)_ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Vince >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >> information >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Kodak C41 film scans very well, and that is a good thing because >>>> it >>>>>>>> will not last that long as a film negative. Plus, you can use >> digital >>>>>> ICE >>>>>>>> with the C41 films. I never had much luck printing either the Kodak >>>> or >>>>>>>> Ilford C41 films in the darkroom. That is TriX etc. territory. If >> I >>>>>> had >>>>>>>> to go back to film, I would try Kodak C41 if available and a pro lab >>>> to >>>>>>>> process. Remember that if circumstances permit you can bracket >> ISO's >>>>>> with >>>>>>>> these films and likely come up with something you will like. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ken Carney >>>>>>>> Oklahoma City, Oklahoma >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >> information >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information