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Subject: [Leica] three questions: C41 b/w film; Mamiya DM22; why no US version of GF1 w 20mm kit?
From: passaro.vince at gmail.com (Vince Passaro)
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 23:49:02 -0400
References: <19b6d42d1003272213l512b02f2m2f28f7ddcd82d132@mail.gmail.com> <4BB1575D.9010500@cox.net> <19b6d42d1003292005i232b2aa2oe312204e8a044fba@mail.gmail.com> <23AC56C7-DE39-4BED-8054-85224F6B94F1@gmail.com> <19b6d42d1003292032q7ba0c0f3n8ca6371c24bc0973@mail.gmail.com> <42887A3A-152D-43FF-9ADF-AD77A5EE08B4@gmail.com>

Cause back when I was using it I didn't know shit. I still don't know shit
but I know a little more shit now. If there had been this overwhelming
universal positive response to the Ilford -- if people said OMG it's the
Panasonic 20mm f/1.7 pancake of color-process black and white film OMG
OMG!!!--- then I would have tried it once or twice more to see if I liked it
any better.

On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 11:36 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at 
gmail.com>wrote:

>
> On Mar 29, 2010, at 8:32 PM, Vince Passaro wrote:
>
> > Nah you misunderstood: "that's why I'm asking people's opinion's...."
> about
> > which one they think is best. The Kodak or the Ilford. Kodak seems to be
> > winning which was my experience. The Ilford was too low contrast in my
> > experience.
>
> who cares "what people think", it only matters what you think...
>
> basically...
>
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 11:07 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at 
> > gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On Mar 29, 2010, at 8:05 PM, Vince Passaro wrote:
> >>
> >>> I lvoe Tri X but cannot process it myself and find it increasingly
> >> expensive
> >>> to have it done. The C41s can be done anywhere by anybody and put on
> >> disk.
> >>> That's why I'm asking people's opinions.
> >>
> >> C41bw is terrific for the reasons stated, what's to ask ?...
> >>
> >> it's clear,
> >>
> >>
> >> Steve
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Ken Carney <kcarney1 at cox.net> 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 3/28/2010 12:13 AM, Vince Passaro wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I'm contemplating C41 b and w film. I've used the Kodak and liked it
> >>>>> sometimes and not others (dependong on factors I was too ignorant to
> >> learn
> >>>>> how to control at the time, I suspect). My impression though was that
> >>>>> Koday
> >>>>> was the best of them but I do recollect an Ilford that some people
> >>>>> liked...
> >>>>> perhaps it was that 50 ASA of theirs?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Anyone using C41 and feel knowledgeable and opinionated enough to
> >> declare
> >>>>> differences and preferences?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Or, here's another question:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I see on B&H site that there's a Mamiya medium format digital camera
> >> for
> >>>>> under $10K, called the DM22. Anyone know about it, have an opinon,
> etc?
> >>>>> for
> >>>>> the price it comes with an 80mm lens, which I guess is kind of an
> >>>>> equivalent
> >>>>> to normal size lens?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And finally: among you GF1 fanatics out there -- does anyone know why
> >> you
> >>>>> can buy the GF! with the 20mm as a kit in Europe but, after a brief
> >>>>> availablility, not here? (here being the good ole' US of A folks.
> TGeam
> >>>>> America. Burn the camera in order to save it. Semper Fi. all that.)_
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Vince
> >>>>>
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> Leica Users Group.
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> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> The Kodak C41 film scans very well, and that is a good thing because
> it
> >>>> will not last that long as a film negative.  Plus, you can use digital
> >> ICE
> >>>> with the C41 films.  I never had much luck printing either the Kodak
> or
> >>>> Ilford C41 films in the darkroom.   That is TriX etc. territory.  If I
> >> had
> >>>> to go back to film, I would try Kodak C41 if available and a pro lab
> to
> >>>> process.  Remember that if circumstances permit you can bracket ISO's
> >> with
> >>>> these films and likely come up with something you will like.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ken Carney
> >>>> Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>
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Replies: Reply from steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour) ([Leica] three questions: C41 b/w film; Mamiya DM22; why no US version of GF1 w 20mm kit?)
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