Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/11/09
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I think Geoff is suggesting Dante is having a bad day. I'd suggest Dante is actually seeing very lucidly. Marty On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote: > I don't get this, Geoff. > > On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at > gmail.com>wrote: > >> Dante, when you started your day, you lost your car keys, someone stole >> your >> parking space, the cafe was out of your favourite muffins, your coffee had >> a >> fly in it and your pet hamster has leprosy and an unplanned pregnancy or >> something??? ;-) ;-) >> Sheesh! >> >> >> 2009/11/10 Dante Stella <dstella1 at ameritech.net> >> >> > Mark, this is not about raw speed - though I know that makes for a >> > better >> > straw-man. >> > >> > 1. ? ? ?David Keenan is dead-on correct about the M8/M9 architecture, >> which >> > has a long shutter lag (six times that of an M3 and double that of a >> > D3), >> is >> > slow to a second shot (should/when you need one), and can lock up fairly >> > easily taking repeated shots, even without mashing down the shutter >> button >> > on continuous. ?I have years of experience with this on the M8 and agree >> > with Keenan that unresponsiveness - particularly on a first shot - is >> > inexcusable. ?This is even more the case where a camera allegedly is >> > designed to capture some "decisive moment." >> > >> > 2. ? ? ?Two things that didn't get mentioned (and hopefully these have >> not >> > carried on to the M9) are (a) the tendency of the M8 to wildly >> > overexpose >> if >> > the shutter is pressed too quickly when the meter is "waking up" - >> > apparently a bad habit carried over with the M7 meter - and (b) the >> tendency >> > not to fire the flash at all if the shutter is tripped too quickly after >> the >> > shutter is first pressed. ?Then go to #1 above for the slow recovery >> > from >> > the resulting missed shot. >> > >> > If the M9 is in any way worse than an M8 in responsiveness, it's a fail. >> ?I >> > don't believe that a camera should have any ability to second-guess, ask >> for >> > a "do-over," or be asleep on the job when I need it. >> > >> > The decision when and if to take a picture is not an exercise for a >> > committee. >> > >> > Unless that committee is a committee of one. >> > >> > Me. >> > >> > Dante >> > >> > ____________ >> > Dante Stella >> > http://www.dantestella.com >> > >> > NO ARCHIVE >> > >> > On Nov 9, 2009, at 1:06 AM, Mark Rabiner wrote: >> > >> > We'll see if anyone else in the world especially a reviewer especially a >> >> real reviewer thinks there's ?a speed issue with the camera. As in the >> >> camrea shoots too slow. Which he goes on and on about. >> >> >> >> I wasn't too offended till I got half way down the page and hit the >> >> " The Major Flaw of the M9" >> >> >> >> He's holding the shutter button down until the thing slow up and stops >> >> shooting at 2 frames per second and that takes ?seven or eight >> exposures. >> >> " Inexcusable" he says >> >> !?!?! >> >> >> >> And he insists on shooting "compressed RAW + fine JPG" . >> >> Gotta have both. >> >> It's gotta be compressed >> >> And he's gotta go on and on about it. >> >> >> >> The last time I held the shutter button down like that on even a DSLR >> was >> >> never. >> >> And I've shot skate boarders. >> >> >> >> But not Golf swing studies. >> >> >> >> There's a difference between camera ?bloggers and ?cameras reviewers. >> >> And I'd think the digitaljournalist people would know that. >> >> . >> >> >> >> >> >> Mark William Rabiner >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Leica Users Group. >> >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Leica Users Group. >> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Cheers >> Geoff >> The new LEICA M9 >> Passion for perfect pictures. >> http://www.m.leica-camera.com >> >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/ >> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > > > -- > Regards, > > Sonny > http://www.sonc.com > http://sonc.stumbleupon.com/ > Natchitoches, Louisiana > (+31.754164,-093.099080) > > USA > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >