Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/11/09

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Subject: [Leica] m9 review
From: sonc.hegr at gmail.com (Sonny Carter)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:32:17 -0600
References: <C71D1BB1.58386%mark@rabinergroup.com> <2B32D10C-CE25-485C-8D04-E9EABD6CDEB6@ameritech.net> <36172e5a0911092023s2a2fd6b0lcc7ea8d51a8bd6c@mail.gmail.com>

I don't get this, Geoff.

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at 
gmail.com>wrote:

> Dante, when you started your day, you lost your car keys, someone stole
> your
> parking space, the cafe was out of your favourite muffins, your coffee had
> a
> fly in it and your pet hamster has leprosy and an unplanned pregnancy or
> something??? ;-) ;-)
> Sheesh!
>
>
> 2009/11/10 Dante Stella <dstella1 at ameritech.net>
>
> > Mark, this is not about raw speed - though I know that makes for a better
> > straw-man.
> >
> > 1.      David Keenan is dead-on correct about the M8/M9 architecture,
> which
> > has a long shutter lag (six times that of an M3 and double that of a D3),
> is
> > slow to a second shot (should/when you need one), and can lock up fairly
> > easily taking repeated shots, even without mashing down the shutter
> button
> > on continuous.  I have years of experience with this on the M8 and agree
> > with Keenan that unresponsiveness - particularly on a first shot - is
> > inexcusable.  This is even more the case where a camera allegedly is
> > designed to capture some "decisive moment."
> >
> > 2.      Two things that didn't get mentioned (and hopefully these have
> not
> > carried on to the M9) are (a) the tendency of the M8 to wildly overexpose
> if
> > the shutter is pressed too quickly when the meter is "waking up" -
> > apparently a bad habit carried over with the M7 meter - and (b) the
> tendency
> > not to fire the flash at all if the shutter is tripped too quickly after
> the
> > shutter is first pressed.  Then go to #1 above for the slow recovery from
> > the resulting missed shot.
> >
> > If the M9 is in any way worse than an M8 in responsiveness, it's a fail.
>  I
> > don't believe that a camera should have any ability to second-guess, ask
> for
> > a "do-over," or be asleep on the job when I need it.
> >
> > The decision when and if to take a picture is not an exercise for a
> > committee.
> >
> > Unless that committee is a committee of one.
> >
> > Me.
> >
> > Dante
> >
> > ____________
> > Dante Stella
> > http://www.dantestella.com
> >
> > NO ARCHIVE
> >
> > On Nov 9, 2009, at 1:06 AM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
> >
> > We'll see if anyone else in the world especially a reviewer especially a
> >> real reviewer thinks there's  a speed issue with the camera. As in the
> >> camrea shoots too slow. Which he goes on and on about.
> >>
> >> I wasn't too offended till I got half way down the page and hit the
> >> " The Major Flaw of the M9"
> >>
> >> He's holding the shutter button down until the thing slow up and stops
> >> shooting at 2 frames per second and that takes  seven or eight
> exposures.
> >> " Inexcusable" he says
> >> !?!?!
> >>
> >> And he insists on shooting "compressed RAW + fine JPG" .
> >> Gotta have both.
> >> It's gotta be compressed
> >> And he's gotta go on and on about it.
> >>
> >> The last time I held the shutter button down like that on even a DSLR
> was
> >> never.
> >> And I've shot skate boarders.
> >>
> >> But not Golf swing studies.
> >>
> >> There's a difference between camera  bloggers and  cameras reviewers.
> >> And I'd think the digitaljournalist people would know that.
> >> .
> >>
> >>
> >> Mark William Rabiner
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
>
>
>
> --
> Cheers
> Geoff
> The new LEICA M9
> Passion for perfect pictures.
> http://www.m.leica-camera.com
>
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>
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Sonny
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Replies: Reply from benedenia at gmail.com (Marty Deveney) ([Leica] m9 review)
In reply to: Message from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] m9 review)
Message from dstella1 at ameritech.net (Dante Stella) ([Leica] m9 review)
Message from hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson) ([Leica] m9 review)