Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/10/22
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]What I don't wish to see displayed in public: Kids eating happy meals. Middle class families eating KFC. Sugary foods and drink adds during children TV shows. http://www.spurgeonworld.com/blog/images/obesity.jpg http://www.bored.com/billboards/images/mcdonalds_hip.2.jpg Remember, not so long ago: http://www.bored.com/billboards/images/reagan.jpg Example of perceptual shift or what we call creating negative valence for a product: http://www.soloflex.com/wp-content/uploads/Glass-of-Human-Fat-Debuts-In-New-Health-Department-Ads-Gothamist.jpg Art and the counterfactual argument to "just making a living". http://www.chrisjordan.com/current_set2.php?id=11 At 03:26 PM 10/22/2009, you wrote: >The contempt is aimed at the industry. I suppose there aren't too >many LUGGERS photographing children eating happy meals for >bilboards. For those who are, please stop. > > >At 02:05 PM 10/22/2009, you wrote: >>Gee Chris, YOU NEVER MENTIONED TV ADVERTISING very 3 minutes or so? >> >>Is it we the photographers who tick you off or is it the constant >>bombardment by TV commercials that make you so angry? >>ted >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Saganich" <chs2018 at >>med.cornell.edu> >>To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> >>Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:17 AM >>Subject: Re: [Leica] Stock Photography >> >> >>>And if anyone wishes to save photography from oblivion there needs to >>>be a serious critical perception shift away from the devaluation of >>>imagery which is promoted through editorial and advertising. This >>>can start by critically thinking about the role of imagery in >>>non-ethical advertising practices. I consider all advertising >>>non-ethical but that is just my somewhat radical (but justified) >>>view. Yes. I'm likely to deface a billboard rather then chain myself >>>to an old oak tree...so laugh if you like I find advertising an >>>initial condition for much of the modern ill's we face, from economy >>>to obesity, because it creates and manipulates all our cues. Cues, >>>or another way to look at it is our salient attention, what we pay >>>attention to. Images are used predominantly to create and reinforce >>>our cues. As Tina's images cue people to care or give money on the >>>positive side, similar images could be used to cue people to despise >>>and vilify the same people. When I walk around I see images that are >>>predominantly used in ways to cue people into unhealthy socially and >>>civilly degrading behavior and thinking. I don't see a cell phone >>>advertisement, I see the promotion of a product that will very likely >>>have profound health effects on its heaviest users 20 years from >>>now. When I see a child enjoying a Happy Meal I don't see a happy >>>kid, I see 100 million 25 year olds with a health profile that makes >>>most doctors shudder and the collapse of our health care >>>system. Call it a crusade I suppose but I HATE ADVERTISING and >>>images are it's core component. So it turns my stomach to see >>>photography and images used like that to cue people into all these >>>unhealthy, negative behaviors just for the profit. Profit over >>>people is mostly how I see images being used. It's just a >>>living?...a living breathing, breeding, disaster in my opinion. >>> >>> >>>At 06:11 PM 10/21/2009, you wrote: >>>>From: "Chris Saganich" <chs2018 at med.cornell.edu> >>>>To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 12:50 PM >>>>Subject: Re: [Leica] Stock Photography >>>> >>>> >>>>>Advertising IS maleficence in action. Editorial is not so much >>>>>better in my book, just promoting the rational. It's easy to >>>>>rationalize "making a living" doing just about anything. Too bad >>>>>that seems to be where the argument ends, that making a living >>>>>justifies ignoring the ethical comportment of the industries we work >>>>>in. I can only wish I could choose which images could be stripped >>>>>naked, exploited, and discarded and which ones could not. The very >>>>>idea of purposely making an image for that destiny turns my >>>>>stomach. Like a rack of ribs to a Buddhist. >>>> >>>>Gee Chris I sure wish I understood what you mean ? Maybe I could be >>>>of help to clear this up in your description. Maybe? >>>>Dr. ted >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>Leica Users Group. >>>>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Leica Users Group. >>>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.26/2451 - Release Date: >>10/22/09 08:51:00 >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Leica Users Group. >>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > >_______________________________________________ >Leica Users Group. >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information