Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/10/22
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]The contempt is aimed at the industry. I suppose there aren't too many LUGGERS photographing children eating happy meals for bilboards. For those who are, please stop. At 02:05 PM 10/22/2009, you wrote: >Gee Chris, YOU NEVER MENTIONED TV ADVERTISING very 3 minutes or so? > >Is it we the photographers who tick you off or is it the constant >bombardment by TV commercials that make you so angry? >ted >----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Saganich" <chs2018 at >med.cornell.edu> >To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> >Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:17 AM >Subject: Re: [Leica] Stock Photography > > >>And if anyone wishes to save photography from oblivion there needs to >>be a serious critical perception shift away from the devaluation of >>imagery which is promoted through editorial and advertising. This >>can start by critically thinking about the role of imagery in >>non-ethical advertising practices. I consider all advertising >>non-ethical but that is just my somewhat radical (but justified) >>view. Yes. I'm likely to deface a billboard rather then chain myself >>to an old oak tree...so laugh if you like I find advertising an >>initial condition for much of the modern ill's we face, from economy >>to obesity, because it creates and manipulates all our cues. Cues, >>or another way to look at it is our salient attention, what we pay >>attention to. Images are used predominantly to create and reinforce >>our cues. As Tina's images cue people to care or give money on the >>positive side, similar images could be used to cue people to despise >>and vilify the same people. When I walk around I see images that are >>predominantly used in ways to cue people into unhealthy socially and >>civilly degrading behavior and thinking. I don't see a cell phone >>advertisement, I see the promotion of a product that will very likely >>have profound health effects on its heaviest users 20 years from >>now. When I see a child enjoying a Happy Meal I don't see a happy >>kid, I see 100 million 25 year olds with a health profile that makes >>most doctors shudder and the collapse of our health care >>system. Call it a crusade I suppose but I HATE ADVERTISING and >>images are it's core component. So it turns my stomach to see >>photography and images used like that to cue people into all these >>unhealthy, negative behaviors just for the profit. Profit over >>people is mostly how I see images being used. It's just a >>living?...a living breathing, breeding, disaster in my opinion. >> >> >>At 06:11 PM 10/21/2009, you wrote: >>>From: "Chris Saganich" <chs2018 at med.cornell.edu> >>>To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> >>>Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 12:50 PM >>>Subject: Re: [Leica] Stock Photography >>> >>> >>>>Advertising IS maleficence in action. Editorial is not so much >>>>better in my book, just promoting the rational. It's easy to >>>>rationalize "making a living" doing just about anything. Too bad >>>>that seems to be where the argument ends, that making a living >>>>justifies ignoring the ethical comportment of the industries we work >>>>in. I can only wish I could choose which images could be stripped >>>>naked, exploited, and discarded and which ones could not. The very >>>>idea of purposely making an image for that destiny turns my >>>>stomach. Like a rack of ribs to a Buddhist. >>> >>>Gee Chris I sure wish I understood what you mean ? Maybe I could be >>>of help to clear this up in your description. Maybe? >>>Dr. ted >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Leica Users Group. >>>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Leica Users Group. >>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.26/2451 - Release Date: >10/22/09 08:51:00 > > >_______________________________________________ >Leica Users Group. >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information