Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/10/21
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Advertising IS maleficence in action. Editorial is not so much better in my book, just promoting the rational. It's easy to rationalize "making a living" doing just about anything. Too bad that seems to be where the argument ends, that making a living justifies ignoring the ethical comportment of the industries we work in. I can only wish I could choose which images could be stripped naked, exploited, and discarded and which ones could not. The very idea of purposely making an image for that destiny turns my stomach. Like a rack of ribs to a Buddhist. At 01:39 PM 10/21/2009, you wrote: >With all due respect Ted , telling people who are ignorant of this >area of photography to GET LOST is hardly a kind thing to say. No >one is accusing you or Tina of being pimps or drug dealers. Those >on the list who don't know about this stock photography are just >curious. The way out of Darkness is NOT to shut the door but to >shine some light on the subject. >If you want the LUG to be more than just pros shooting stock then >kindness and education should be the byword > >ernie nitka > >tedgrant at shaw.ca wrote: >>Howdy crew, >>I have been away and this is my first morning and quite probably >>the last to looking at this kind of thing on the LUG. >> >>For those of you who have absolutely no knowledge nor experience >>or earned income from shooting stock! GET LOST! If you have >>absolutely no experience in this manner of photography nor have >>ever been earning your life income... STILL GET LOST! >> >>To those of us who "EARN OUR LIVELIHOOD " through being >>photographers and you do not...... GET LOST AGAIN! >> >>Stock Agencies "were good income for thousands of photographers." >>Today some are like many other greedy total control of the markets >>paying .40 cents to a photographer while they make the bulk of the >>income. Real world great economic times. Thanks to the greedy controllers. >> >>The MASTERFILE Agency in Canada have top end stock shooters who >>make/made $250,000 and more a year and that's after expenses for >>casting, travel and whatever costs were involved in producing the >>material! By the same token they work their butts off producing >>photography required by agencies and those who want their goods and >>services advertised. It's not some evil thing, it's not illegal and >>when one of your photographs happens to be purchased for one time >>use for $13,500 it kind of makes you smile all the way to the bank! >>just take a moment and think about that whomever are doing whatever >>it is about stock! >> >>Not sure what the problem is you guys are having with this topic as >>I don't have time to go back over two weeks of mail looking for >>whatever started it. However, be it as it may, it's just wasted air >>time if you are not directly involved with earning your living >>shooting stock or selling your images directly from your own >>office! Like get over it, go out and take some nice pictures! >> >>But as Tina pointed out: >>"> I really don't know why everyone is so negative about stock >>>photography. It's a way of making a living! I almost never lease any >>>photos for commercial use. 99% of mine are leased for editorial use - >>>usually in textbooks, sometimes in magazines.<<<<<<<< >> >>Yep absolutely correct! And my case I've had "stock" sold for over >>45 years if not a few more than that. >> >>Have a nice day! >>cheers, >>Dr.ted >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Tina Manley" <images at comporium.net> >>To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> >>Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 6:36 AM >>Subject: [Leica] Stock Photography >> >> >>>LUG: >>> >>>I really don't know why everyone is so negative about stock >>>photography. It's a way of making a living! I almost never lease any >>>photos for commercial use. 99% of mine are leased for editorial use - >>>usually in textbooks, sometimes in magazines. Here is a very typical >>>one that Alamy leased today: >>>* >>>* >>>**ATYA36 >>> >>>** >>> >>> >>>Go to http://www.alamy.com and put that number in the search box to see >>>the photo. >>>It was leased for one page use in a college textbook for $270. Alamy >>>leases about 10 to 12 a month of mine for similar use - better than all >>>of my other stock agencies combined. I lease others directly in >>>response to requests. Five years ago the prices were almost double what >>>we get today but there were also fewer sales. The internet and digital >>>photography have changed everything. I used to have to send in >>>duplicate slides, wait to be approved, and then send the original. >>>Everything is instant today. Deadlines for requests are seldom more >>>than one or two days from the request. >>> >>>The stock photos that are compared to clip art are usually micro-stock. >>>Those sell for less than $1 per use and 75% of that goes to the >>>micro-stock agency. That's a different world that I would never enter. >>>All of my photos are rights managed, meaning they are leased for >>>one-time use. Most of them come out of my files, but I'll also go out >>>and take photos to fill requests. >>> >>>All stock is not evil! >>> >>>Tina >>>www.tinamanley.com >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Leica Users Group. >>>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.24/2449 - Release Date: >>10/20/09 18:42:00 >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Leica Users Group. >>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > >_______________________________________________ >Leica Users Group. >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information