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Subject: [Leica] Stock Photography
From: sonc.hegr at gmail.com (Sonny Carter)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:12:49 -0500
References: <4ADF0E4A.2010400@comporium.net> <5464C8B2604245D7B2C28B330C67185E@syneticfeba505> <4ADF4769.9090202@comcast.net> <4ADF59E5.8030102@sfr.fr>

I get grumpy sometimes too Philippe.



On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Philippe Amard <philippe.amard at 
sfr.fr>wrote:

> All this hurts !
> Needed?
> Phx
>
>
>
> charcot wrote:
>
>  With all due respect Ted , telling people who are ignorant of this area of
>> photography to GET LOST is hardly a kind thing to say.  No one is accusing
>> you or Tina of being pimps or drug dealers.  Those on the list who don't
>> know about this stock photography are just curious.  The way out of 
>> Darkness
>> is NOT to shut the door but to shine some light on the subject.
>> If you want the LUG to be more than just pros shooting stock then kindness
>> and education should be the byword
>>
>> ernie nitka
>>
>> tedgrant at shaw.ca wrote:
>>
>>  Howdy crew,
>>> I have been away and this is my first morning and quite probably the last
>>> to looking at this kind of thing on the LUG.
>>>
>>> For those of you  who have absolutely no knowledge nor experience or
>>> earned income from shooting stock!  GET LOST! If you have absolutely no
>>> experience in this manner of photography nor have ever been earning your
>>> life income... STILL GET LOST!
>>>
>>> To those of us who "EARN OUR LIVELIHOOD " through being photographers and
>>> you do not...... GET LOST AGAIN!
>>>
>>> Stock Agencies "were good income for thousands of photographers." Today
>>> some are like many other greedy total control of the markets paying .40
>>> cents to a photographer while they make the bulk of the income. Real 
>>> world
>>> great economic times. Thanks to the greedy controllers.
>>>
>>> The MASTERFILE Agency in Canada have top end stock shooters who make/made
>>> $250,000 and more a year and that's after expenses for casting, travel 
>>> and
>>> whatever costs were involved in producing the material! By the same token
>>> they work their butts off producing photography required by agencies and
>>> those who want their goods and services advertised. It's not some evil
>>> thing, it's not illegal and when one of your photographs happens to be
>>> purchased for one time use for $13,500 it kind of makes you smile all the
>>> way to the bank! just take a moment and think about that whomever are 
>>> doing
>>> whatever it is about stock!
>>>
>>> Not sure what the problem is you guys are having with this topic as I
>>> don't have time to go back over two weeks of mail looking for whatever
>>> started it. However, be it as it may, it's just wasted air time if you 
>>> are
>>> not directly involved with earning your living shooting stock or selling
>>> your images directly from your own office! Like get over it, go out and 
>>> take
>>> some nice pictures!
>>>
>>> But as Tina pointed out:
>>> "> I really don't know why everyone is so negative about stock
>>>
>>>  photography.  It's a way of making a living!  I almost never lease any
>>>> photos for commercial use.  99% of mine are leased for editorial use -
>>>> usually in textbooks, sometimes in magazines.<<<<<<<<
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yep absolutely correct! And my case I've had "stock" sold for over 45
>>> years if not a few more than that.
>>>
>>> Have a nice day!
>>> cheers,
>>> Dr.ted
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tina Manley" <images at 
>>> comporium.net>
>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 6:36 AM
>>> Subject: [Leica] Stock Photography
>>>
>>>
>>>  LUG:
>>>>
>>>> I really don't know why everyone is so negative about stock
>>>> photography.  It's a way of making a living!  I almost never lease any
>>>> photos for commercial use.  99% of mine are leased for editorial use -
>>>> usually in textbooks, sometimes in magazines.  Here is a very typical
>>>> one that Alamy leased today:
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> **ATYA36
>>>>
>>>> **
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Go to http://www.alamy.com and put that number in the search box to see
>>>> the photo.
>>>> It was leased for one page use in a college textbook for $270.  Alamy
>>>> leases about 10 to 12 a month of mine for similar use - better than all
>>>> of my other stock agencies combined.  I lease others directly in
>>>> response to requests.  Five years ago the prices were almost double what
>>>> we get today but there were also fewer sales.  The internet and digital
>>>> photography have changed everything.  I used to have to send in
>>>> duplicate slides, wait to be approved, and then send the original.
>>>> Everything is instant today.  Deadlines for requests are seldom more
>>>> than one or two days from the request.
>>>>
>>>> The stock photos that are compared to clip art are usually micro-stock.
>>>> Those sell for less than $1 per use and 75% of that goes to the
>>>> micro-stock agency.  That's a different world that I would never enter.
>>>> All of my photos are rights managed, meaning they are leased for
>>>> one-time use.  Most of them come out of my files, but I'll also go out
>>>> and take photos to fill requests.
>>>>
>>>> All stock is not evil!
>>>>
>>>> Tina
>>>> www.tinamanley.com
>>>>
>>>>
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