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Subject: [Leica] Stock Photography
From: philippe.amard at sfr.fr (Philippe Amard)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:58:45 +0200
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All this hurts !
Needed?
Phx


charcot wrote:

> With all due respect Ted , telling people who are ignorant of this 
> area of photography to GET LOST is hardly a kind thing to say.  No one 
> is accusing you or Tina of being pimps or drug dealers.  Those on the 
> list who don't know about this stock photography are just curious.  
> The way out of Darkness is NOT to shut the door but to shine some 
> light on the subject.
> If you want the LUG to be more than just pros shooting stock then 
> kindness and education should be the byword
>
> ernie nitka
>
> tedgrant at shaw.ca wrote:
>
>> Howdy crew,
>> I have been away and this is my first morning and quite probably the 
>> last to looking at this kind of thing on the LUG.
>>
>> For those of you  who have absolutely no knowledge nor experience or 
>> earned income from shooting stock!  GET LOST! If you have absolutely 
>> no experience in this manner of photography nor have ever been 
>> earning your life income... STILL GET LOST!
>>
>> To those of us who "EARN OUR LIVELIHOOD " through being photographers 
>> and you do not...... GET LOST AGAIN!
>>
>> Stock Agencies "were good income for thousands of photographers." 
>> Today some are like many other greedy total control of the markets 
>> paying .40 cents to a photographer while they make the bulk of the 
>> income. Real world great economic times. Thanks to the greedy 
>> controllers.
>>
>> The MASTERFILE Agency in Canada have top end stock shooters who 
>> make/made $250,000 and more a year and that's after expenses for 
>> casting, travel and whatever costs were involved in producing the 
>> material! By the same token they work their butts off producing 
>> photography required by agencies and those who want their goods and 
>> services advertised. It's not some evil thing, it's not illegal and 
>> when one of your photographs happens to be purchased for one time use 
>> for $13,500 it kind of makes you smile all the way to the bank! just 
>> take a moment and think about that whomever are doing whatever it is 
>> about stock!
>>
>> Not sure what the problem is you guys are having with this topic as I 
>> don't have time to go back over two weeks of mail looking for 
>> whatever started it. However, be it as it may, it's just wasted air 
>> time if you are not directly involved with earning your living 
>> shooting stock or selling your images directly from your own office! 
>> Like get over it, go out and take some nice pictures!
>>
>> But as Tina pointed out:
>> "> I really don't know why everyone is so negative about stock
>>
>>> photography.  It's a way of making a living!  I almost never lease any
>>> photos for commercial use.  99% of mine are leased for editorial use -
>>> usually in textbooks, sometimes in magazines.<<<<<<<<
>>
>>
>> Yep absolutely correct! And my case I've had "stock" sold for over 45 
>> years if not a few more than that.
>>
>> Have a nice day!
>> cheers,
>> Dr.ted
>>
>>
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>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tina Manley" <images at comporium.net>
>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 6:36 AM
>> Subject: [Leica] Stock Photography
>>
>>
>>> LUG:
>>>
>>> I really don't know why everyone is so negative about stock
>>> photography.  It's a way of making a living!  I almost never lease any
>>> photos for commercial use.  99% of mine are leased for editorial use -
>>> usually in textbooks, sometimes in magazines.  Here is a very typical
>>> one that Alamy leased today:
>>> *
>>> *
>>> **ATYA36
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>>
>>> Go to http://www.alamy.com and put that number in the search box to see
>>> the photo.
>>> It was leased for one page use in a college textbook for $270.  Alamy
>>> leases about 10 to 12 a month of mine for similar use - better than all
>>> of my other stock agencies combined.  I lease others directly in
>>> response to requests.  Five years ago the prices were almost double 
>>> what
>>> we get today but there were also fewer sales.  The internet and digital
>>> photography have changed everything.  I used to have to send in
>>> duplicate slides, wait to be approved, and then send the original.
>>> Everything is instant today.  Deadlines for requests are seldom more
>>> than one or two days from the request.
>>>
>>> The stock photos that are compared to clip art are usually micro-stock.
>>> Those sell for less than $1 per use and 75% of that goes to the
>>> micro-stock agency.  That's a different world that I would never enter.
>>> All of my photos are rights managed, meaning they are leased for
>>> one-time use.  Most of them come out of my files, but I'll also go out
>>> and take photos to fill requests.
>>>
>>> All stock is not evil!
>>>
>>> Tina
>>> www.tinamanley.com
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>
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