Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/09/28
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Jim, You assume correctly, the Canon couldn't care less about cams :-) So no problem at all. Cheers Douglas James Laird wrote: > Is there any significant difference, image-wise, in the Canadian vs > German cron 50? > > Or between the 2-cam and 3-cam versions? Since I'll be using this on a > Canon body with adapter, I assume the 2-cam and 3-cam will both work > equally well. > > Jim > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 12:30 AM, Philippe Amard <philippe.amard at > sfr.fr> wrote: > >> More bokeh cron 50 and elmarit 60 takes here, plus various D-Leica, >> Ang?nieux and Oly flowers >> >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Phileica/album368/Kenzonian+Bokeh+_1+sur+1_.jpg.html >> >> This one is a fairly relevant example of the sharpness and flaws of the >> lens, I guess >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/d/164790-1/FF-Iris-For+Missus-original-1090999-2.jpg >> >> Hard to tell what bokeh means by the way. >> Depends on what and how you want to shoot too. >> >> Bien cordialement de Metz >> Philippe >> >> >> Jim Nichols wrote: >> >> >>> Hi Jim, >>> >>> Yes, if you are referring to the yellow lily, I beleive it is typical of >>> the Summicron. There is one other in the gallery, made with the >>> Summicron, >>> that I feel is the best that I have achieved. The link is below: >>> >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Rhody+by+Summicron.tif.html >>> >>> I don't think this lens will disappoint you. >>> >>> Jim Nichols >>> Tullahoma, TN USA >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Laird" <digiratidoc at >>> gmail.com> >>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> >>> Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 11:12 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Better bokeh? >>> >>> >>> >>>> Jim, >>>> >>>> I think the bokeh in your first Summicron image is superb. Is this >>>> typical with this lens in your experience? >>>> >>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Yellow+Lily+2.tif.html> >>>> >>>> Jim >>>> >>>> On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 11:02 PM, Jim Nichols <jhnichols at >>>> lighttube.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Jim, >>>>> >>>>> Prior to getting the Leica-R lenses, I was experimenting with some >>>>> Pentax >>>>> Takumars that I had available. For pure OOF areas, I suspect that the >>>>> Taks >>>>> were as nice as the Leicas. I got the Leica lenses because the in-focus >>>>> performance is better than anything else that I have found. >>>>> >>>>> As to the different versions of the Summicron, I can't answer. IIRC, >>>>> mine >>>>> is a 3-cam, with a retractable shade. >>>>> >>>>> Takumar bokeh: >>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Fuchsia_Blooms_sm.jpg.html >>>>> >>>>> Zuiko 14-54 bokeh: >>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Garden+Spider+final.jpg.html >>>>> >>>>> Old Hannimex 135: >>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Ruby+Throat+Female.tif.html >>>>> >>>>> Another with 60/2.8 Elmarit-R: >>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Watchful+Hummer.jpg.html >>>>> >>>>> Jim Nichols >>>>> Tullahoma, TN USA >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Laird" <digiratidoc at >>>>> gmail.com> >>>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 10:41 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Better bokeh? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Jim, those are outstanding images, but I'm not really >>>>>> interested in how 'sharp' the images is but rather the juxtaposition >>>>>> of the somewhat sharp to the absolutely out of focus areas of the >>>>>> image. That's why I'm interested in which lens offers the best >>>>>> 'bokeh'. Is there any difference in bokeh between the different >>>>>> versions of the 50/2.0 Summicron 1,2, and 3 cam lenses? If so, which >>>>>> offers the best, smoothest out of focus image. And will the famous >>>>>> Leica 'bokeh' make a significant difference over my antiquated Canon >>>>>> 50/1.8? >>>>>> >>>>>> Jim >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Jim Nichols <jhnichols at >>>>>> lighttube.net> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> James, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am using the 50/2.0 Summicron-R, and the 60/2.8 Elmarit-R Macro. >>>>>>> The >>>>>>> bokeh is fine at large apertures with both of them. The advantage of >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> 60 >>>>>>> is that one can focus down to about 10 inches, though the DOF at that >>>>>>> point >>>>>>> is VERY shallow. The following images in my gallery might give you >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> idea >>>>>>> of what to expect. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My first post using the Elmarit: >>>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Rose.jpg.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A similar post with the Summicron: >>>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Yellow+Lily+2.tif.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jim Nichols >>>>>>> Tullahoma, TN USA >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Laird" >>>>>>> <digiratidoc at gmail.com> >>>>>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 7:18 PM >>>>>>> Subject: [Leica] Better bokeh? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Which R lens in the 'standard' range (50-60mm) has the best bokeh? >>>>>>>> I've found an interest in the macro world and shoot a lot with my >>>>>>>> old >>>>>>>> trusty Canon 50 1.8 with a Kenko 12mm extension tube resulting in >>>>>>>> shots like >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/digiratidoc/Bokeh/> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm interested in trying out an R lens due to Leicas legendary >>>>>>>> bokeh. >>>>>>>> Which one is the 'best', if there is such a thing? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >