Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/08/29

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Subject: [Leica] ...now PJ
From: imagist3 at mac.com (George Lottermoser)
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 17:12:54 -0500
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World Press winners in a lot more categories than "man's inhumanity  
to man"

<http://www.worldpressphoto.org/index.php? 
option=com_photogallery&task=blogsection&id=19&Itemid=224&bandwidth=high 
 >

Regards,
George Lottermoser
george at imagist.com
http://www.imagist.com
http://www.imagist.com/blog
http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist

On Aug 29, 2009, at 5:00 PM, Steve Barbour wrote:

>
> On Aug 29, 2009, at 2:47 PM, Jerry Lehrer wrote:
>
>> Steve,
>>
>> The judges are only interested in photos showing  "man's  
>> inhumanity to man".
>
> that's a good point Jerry, straightforward, likely true......if  
> that is all they want, so be it...
>
>
> but a penny, even a mangled one, has two sides...
>
> there must be an effective way to make this point  in a more  
> subtle , auspicious,  constructive manner...
>
>
> it may be more palatable, inspiring, ultimately more effective as  
> well...
>
>
> Steve
>
>
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>>
>> Steve Barbour wrote:
>>> On Aug 29, 2009, at 2:06 PM, George Lottermoser wrote:
>>>
>>>> Same thoughts and questions came to my mind.
>>>> "The Concerned Photographer"
>>>> <http://www.artic.edu/aic/exhibitions/concerned.html>
>>>> and the book from 1968
>>>> <http://www.amazon.com/Concerned-Photographer-Photographs- 
>>>> Bischof-Kertesz/dp/B000BYG608/ref=sr_1_1? 
>>>> ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1251579457&sr=1-1>
>>>> certainly attempt to answer the question.
>>>>
>>>> I suspect that the answer rests in
>>>> how much real and quality time
>>>> the photographer spends
>>>> with their subject(s).
>>>>
>>>> Whether one captures only the "horror"
>>>> or
>>>> the humanity and story within the situation
>>>> will depend on the depth of one's "concern"
>>>> and the time devoted to the subject.
>>>> The difference between the isolated grab shot
>>>> of a homeless person on the street
>>>> and the photo essay about that same person,
>>>> photographed over weeks or months,
>>>> including discussions with them,
>>>> will appear in the photographs.
>>>
>>> yes George, I totally agree, these issues rattled my own mind,   
>>> as I struggled with my photos of children in the hospital, for   
>>> "I never wanted to be famous"...
>>>
>>> how to make visible, and compassionately advocate for things that  
>>> may not be entirely "easy"... unhappy things that you
>>>
>>> wish to explore and honor...
>>>
>>> there are many such studies of poverty, hunger, disease, and  
>>> war... that come to mind.
>>>
>>> It's all a question of respect...certainly Tina Manley, Ted  
>>> Grant,  Sandy Carter images come often to my mind.
>>>
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> George Lottermoser
>>>> george at imagist.com
>>>> http://www.imagist.com
>>>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 29, 2009, at 3:36 PM, Steve Barbour wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> the caring photojournalist as agent for change, as advocate for  
>>>>> the downtrodden...
>>>>>
>>>>> how best to work in this direction by showing images of good,  
>>>>> of the positive...
>>>>>
>>>>> examples?
>>>>>
>>>>> in lieu of the monstrously bad...?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _
>>>
>>
>>
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>
> warm regards, Steve
> steve.barbour at gmail.com
>
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