Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/08/29

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Subject: [Leica] ...now PJ
From: steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 15:00:29 -0700
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On Aug 29, 2009, at 2:47 PM, Jerry Lehrer wrote:

> Steve,
>
> The judges are only interested in photos showing  "man's inhumanity  
> to man".

that's a good point Jerry, straightforward, likely true......if that  
is all they want, so be it...


but a penny, even a mangled one, has two sides...

there must be an effective way to make this point  in a more subtle ,  
auspicious,  constructive manner...


it may be more palatable, inspiring, ultimately more effective as  
well...


Steve


>
> Jerry
>
>
> Steve Barbour wrote:
>> On Aug 29, 2009, at 2:06 PM, George Lottermoser wrote:
>>
>>> Same thoughts and questions came to my mind.
>>> "The Concerned Photographer"
>>> <http://www.artic.edu/aic/exhibitions/concerned.html>
>>> and the book from 1968
>>> <http://www.amazon.com/Concerned-Photographer-Photographs-Bischof-Kertesz/dp/B000BYG608/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1251579457&sr=1-1
>>>  
>>> >
>>> certainly attempt to answer the question.
>>>
>>> I suspect that the answer rests in
>>> how much real and quality time
>>> the photographer spends
>>> with their subject(s).
>>>
>>> Whether one captures only the "horror"
>>> or
>>> the humanity and story within the situation
>>> will depend on the depth of one's "concern"
>>> and the time devoted to the subject.
>>> The difference between the isolated grab shot
>>> of a homeless person on the street
>>> and the photo essay about that same person,
>>> photographed over weeks or months,
>>> including discussions with them,
>>> will appear in the photographs.
>>
>> yes George, I totally agree, these issues rattled my own mind,  as  
>> I struggled with my photos of children in the hospital, for  "I  
>> never wanted to be famous"...
>>
>> how to make visible, and compassionately advocate for things that  
>> may not be entirely "easy"... unhappy things that you
>>
>> wish to explore and honor...
>>
>> there are many such studies of poverty, hunger, disease, and war...  
>> that come to mind.
>>
>> It's all a question of respect...certainly Tina Manley, Ted Grant,   
>> Sandy Carter images come often to my mind.
>>
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> George Lottermoser
>>> george at imagist.com
>>> http://www.imagist.com
>>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>>>
>>> On Aug 29, 2009, at 3:36 PM, Steve Barbour wrote:
>>>
>>>> the caring photojournalist as agent for change, as advocate for  
>>>> the downtrodden...
>>>>
>>>> how best to work in this direction by showing images of good, of  
>>>> the positive...
>>>>
>>>> examples?
>>>>
>>>> in lieu of the monstrously bad...?
>>>
>>>
>>> _
>>
>
>
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warm regards, Steve
steve.barbour at gmail.com










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