Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/01/19
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]On Jan 19, 2009, at 1:34 PM, George Lottermoser wrote: > feeling a little relief that after looking often > you find more to appreciate in the images. > I'd expect that if we saw some 11x14 or 16x20 prints > we may even find more to appreciate in them > (and I don't mean on glossy newsprint stock with a poorly registered > process dot). > > I certainly wouldn't refer to them as "great" portraits > or superb photographs. > Yet (for me), they contain some fascinating visual qualities; > expressing a some what humbled (un-glorified), > yet respectful human condition. > > We, on this list, look at a hell of a lot of photographs; > how much time do we actually spend on each viewing? > > I find that on some days a post may look, to me, rather dull. > The next day it may (or may not) resonate more. > > Somewhat regularly I do self portraits > to test a lighting set up, an ASA setting or > just to see "how I look today." > > Many times I feel shocked by how I look; > but also fascinated by my own reality, > vulnerability and slow disintegration. > I rarely have the courage > to publicly post these "tests"on a screen or print; > even though some of them have a certain raw power. > > Rather than "wimpy" > I believe it took (and always takes) a certain amount of courage > on everyone's part (photographer, subjects, editors) > to try something a little "off." I still not altogether with you George, we've been seeing our politicians look like deer in the headlights for the last 8 years... I am not convinced that this "deer in the headlights" photographic approach was either creative, necessary, or even courageous... Steve > > > The glamour assembly line > could certainly have been employed; > as it is every single day > ad nauseum. > > Regards, > George Lottermoser > george@imagist.com > http://www.imagist.com > http://www.imagist.com/blog > http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist > Picture A Week - www.imagist.com/paw_07 > > > > > On Jan 19, 2009, at 2:06 PM, Steve Barbour wrote: > >> >> On Jan 19, 2009, at 11:26 AM, George Lottermoser wrote: >> >>> and with equal respect to you Steve >>> nothing wimpy about >>> attempting to work within those restraints >> >> I wanted to respond George, but before doing so I again went >> through all of these photos... >> >> I must say that this time, after 3-4 previous looks... I appreciate >> more these images... >> >> The subjects still decide how they want to be seen, they pose, and >> that was the idea, even encouraging "bring something to include in >> the photo" but I am bothered by the fact that they insist they >> wanted to let the subject pose as wished, yet when Axelrod posed >> with cookies, the photographers chose not to show that image, as >> "it almost didn't look real" "it was too silly"... >> >> so they set their own editorial limits, controls on what was >> acceptable/permissable...sadly a lapse, I think... >> >> >> maybe they simply wanted us to mull over and talk about these >> photos, just as we are... >> >> Steve >> >> >> >> >> >>> ; >>> especially with the subject a person I neither know >>> nor will have the time to get to know. >>> (as any working photographer >>> who's been assigned a few moments >>> with an exec or CEO can attest) >>> >>> In many cases >>> it's easier to apply >>> learned, professional tactics >>> to produce the flattering portrait, >>> complete with more dramatic lighting, >>> and corporate backgrounds >>> to add (perhaps superficial) content. >>> >>> Regards, >>> George Lottermoser >>> george@imagist.com >>> http://www.imagist.com >>> http://www.imagist.com/blog >>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist >>> Picture A Week - www.imagist.com/paw_07 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jan 19, 2009, at 10:07 AM, Steve Barbour wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On Jan 19, 2009, at 8:38 AM, George Lottermoser wrote: >>>> >>>>> one can only guess: >>>>> 1) a catalog of Barack Obama's top advisers, aids and members of >>>>> his incoming administration >>>>> 2) without flattery or suggestive environments >>>>> 3) each within a very limited time frame >>>>> 4) and in quite a number of different locations >>>>> 5) while maintaining a consistent look across the collection >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> with respect George, to your efforts to come up with some kind of >>>> an adequate explanation... >>>> >>>> these sound awfully wimpy to me... >>>> >>>> >>>> Steve >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> George Lottermoser >>>>> george@imagist.com >>>>> http://www.imagist.com >>>>> http://www.imagist.com/blog >>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist >>>>> Picture A Week - www.imagist.com/paw_07 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 19, 2009, at 9:27 AM, Steve Barbour wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> what were they trying to accomplish? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>> information >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>> information >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information