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Subject: [Leica] Dehumanizing portraits?
From: kididdoc at cox.net (Steve Barbour)
Date: Mon Jan 19 12:07:04 2009
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On Jan 19, 2009, at 11:26 AM, George Lottermoser wrote:

> and with equal respect to you Steve
> nothing wimpy about
> attempting to work within those restraints

I wanted to respond George, but before doing so I again went through  
all of these photos...

I must say that this time, after 3-4 previous looks... I appreciate  
more these images...

The subjects still decide how they want to be seen, they pose, and  
that was the idea, even encouraging  "bring something to include in  
the photo" but I am bothered by the fact that they insist they wanted  
to let the subject pose as wished, yet when Axelrod posed with  
cookies, the photographers  chose not to show that image, as "it  
almost didn't look real" "it was too silly"...

so they set their own editorial limits, controls on what was  
acceptable/permissable...sadly a lapse, I think...


maybe they simply wanted us to mull over and talk about these photos,   
just as we are...

Steve





> ;
> especially with the subject a person I neither know
> nor will have the time to get to know.
> (as any working photographer
> who's been assigned a few moments
> with an exec or CEO can attest)
>
> In many cases
> it's easier to apply
> learned, professional tactics
> to produce the flattering portrait,
> complete with more dramatic lighting,
> and corporate backgrounds
> to add (perhaps superficial) content.
>
> Regards,
> George Lottermoser
> george@imagist.com
> http://www.imagist.com
> http://www.imagist.com/blog
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
> Picture A Week - www.imagist.com/paw_07
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 19, 2009, at 10:07 AM, Steve Barbour wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jan 19, 2009, at 8:38 AM, George Lottermoser wrote:
>>
>>> one can only guess:
>>> 1) a catalog of Barack Obama's top advisers, aids and members of  
>>> his incoming administration
>>> 2) without flattery or suggestive environments
>>> 3) each within a very limited time frame
>>> 4) and in quite a number of different locations
>>> 5) while maintaining a consistent look across the collection
>>
>>
>>
>> with respect George, to your efforts to come up with some kind of  
>> an adequate explanation...
>>
>> these sound awfully wimpy to me...
>>
>>
>> Steve
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> George Lottermoser
>>> george@imagist.com
>>> http://www.imagist.com
>>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>>> Picture A Week - www.imagist.com/paw_07
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 19, 2009, at 9:27 AM, Steve Barbour wrote:
>>>
>>>> what were they trying to accomplish?
>>>
>>>
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