Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/01/30
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Ric, I had considered that possibility. As far as I know, Adobe only sells the latest, but there may be resellers who have the earlier versions. I will look around. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ric Carter" <ricc@mindspring.com> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 6:45 AM Subject: Re: [Leica] Elements 5.0 Versus Lightroom 1.0 > Are early versions of Photoshop still for sale at reduced prices? > > This may be a lower cost substitute for some people. > > Ric Carter > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/ricc/ > > On Jan 30, 2007, at 6:31 AM, Peter Dzwig wrote: > >> Jim, >> >> my comments on PSE5: >> >> I upgraded to PSE5 a couple of weeks ago because of my desire to be able >> to use levels. That was the single reason. Frankly it does that in a >> limited way, but in my opinion the User Interface to PSE5 is awful. >> >> UI: >> >> I say in my opinion deliberately because it is my opinion, but then that >> is what UI design is all about, providing a good experience to the user. >> To this user the UI singularly fails to do that. The user is forced into >> a way of handling and storing my images which is Adobe's way and not, >> probably the way that many users would want to. >> >> Several of the tools have been moved and the design of the sliders etc >> changed. Previously they had been perfectly OK. If it ain't bust... >> >> >> Levels: >> >> FWIW I work entirely with TIFFs until I do something like putting the >> images in the LUG gallery; as afr as I am aware all of these comments >> apply equally to JPEG manipulation. >> >> Levels, or lack of them, has been for me one of the major differences >> between PSE and PS. My workflow is based upon scanned C41 B&W (BW400CN) >> images stored as RGB TIFFs. Generally I convert these to B&W and then >> work on them as required. Levels is one of the last steps one would go >> through. >> >> Unfortunately "adjust colour levels" - which is what you get - requires >> a colour image, so you have to work entirely in colour or convert a B&W >> image back to colour! The levels that you get from the UI are then only >> adjustable at certain points via sliders, no manual dragging of the >> curves. The preview seems to take a longer time to react than I would >> have expected, but that is a minor point. Finally you cannot save the >> output from a set of levels adjustments independently of the image. In >> other words you can't save the adjustments to import and re-use. >> >> PSE5 adds a number of features which are aimed at the digital video >> capture market and at doing the sorts of things that I guess that most >> LUGgers probably don't do; most of which aren't "traditional >> photographic" manipulation. >> >> Gripes apart PS/PSE does enable you to do a lot which you couldn't do in >> a darkroom and that is its strength. >> >> Peter Dzwig >> >> Jim Nichols wrote: >>> LUGGERS, >>> In my digital endeavors, I work with JPEG images, not RAW or the other >>> more detailed files. For some years, I have used Adobe Photoshop LE as >>> my editing software. I am now interested in upgrading, and today >>> downloaded the beta version of Lightroom. In experimenting with >>> Lightroom, I find I miss the functionality of PS, but can't justify the >>> professional package. I wondered if anyone not requiring work with RAW >>> images has compared Lightroom and Photoshop Elements 5.0? If so, >>> please share your opinions. >>> Jim Nichols >>> Tullahoma, TN USA >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >