Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/01/30

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Subject: [Leica] Elements 5.0 Versus Lightroom 1.0
From: ricc at mindspring.com (Ric Carter)
Date: Tue Jan 30 04:45:59 2007
References: <01b801c74423$73acb130$6101a8c0@jimnichols> <45BF2C96.7070209@summaventures.com>

Are early versions of Photoshop still for sale at reduced prices?

This may be a lower cost substitute for some people.

Ric Carter
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/ricc/

On Jan 30, 2007, at 6:31 AM, Peter Dzwig wrote:

> Jim,
>
> my comments on PSE5:
>
> I upgraded to PSE5 a couple of weeks ago because of my desire to be  
> able to use levels. That was the single reason. Frankly it does  
> that in a limited way, but in my opinion the User Interface to PSE5  
> is awful.
>
> UI:
>
> I say in my opinion deliberately because it is my opinion, but then  
> that is what UI design is all about, providing a good experience to  
> the user. To this user the UI singularly fails to do that. The user  
> is forced into a way of handling and storing my images which is  
> Adobe's way and not, probably the way that many users would want to.
>
> Several of the tools have been moved and the design of the sliders  
> etc changed. Previously they had been perfectly OK. If it ain't  
> bust...
>
>
> Levels:
>
> FWIW I work entirely with TIFFs until I do something like putting  
> the images in the LUG gallery; as afr as I am aware all of these  
> comments apply equally to JPEG manipulation.
>
> Levels, or lack of them, has been for me one of the major  
> differences between PSE and PS. My workflow is based upon scanned  
> C41 B&W (BW400CN) images stored as RGB TIFFs. Generally I convert  
> these to B&W and then work on them as required. Levels is one of  
> the last steps one would go through.
>
> Unfortunately "adjust colour levels" - which is what you get -  
> requires a colour image, so you have to work entirely in colour or  
> convert a B&W image back to colour! The levels that you get from  
> the UI are then only adjustable at certain points via sliders, no  
> manual dragging of the curves. The preview seems to take a longer  
> time to react than I would have expected, but that is a minor  
> point. Finally you cannot save the output from a set of levels  
> adjustments independently of the image. In other words you can't  
> save the adjustments to import and re-use.
>
> PSE5 adds a number of features which are aimed at the digital video  
> capture market and at doing the sorts of things that I guess that  
> most LUGgers probably don't do; most of which aren't "traditional  
> photographic" manipulation.
>
> Gripes apart PS/PSE does enable you to do a lot which you couldn't  
> do in a darkroom and that is its strength.
>
> Peter Dzwig
>
> Jim Nichols wrote:
>> LUGGERS,
>> In my digital endeavors, I work with JPEG images, not RAW or the  
>> other more detailed files.  For some years, I have used Adobe  
>> Photoshop LE as my editing software.  I am now interested in  
>> upgrading, and today downloaded the beta version of Lightroom.  In  
>> experimenting with Lightroom, I find I miss the functionality of  
>> PS, but can't justify the professional package. I wondered if  
>> anyone not requiring work with RAW images has compared Lightroom  
>> and Photoshop Elements 5.0?  If so, please share your opinions.
>>   Jim Nichols
>> Tullahoma, TN USA
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