Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/01/22

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Black and white printers
From: "Rodgers, David" <>
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 11:49:37 -0600


>>Some Lugger (maybe Mark Rabiner?) has been doing really nice work on a
1200, using a CIS system to keep the cost down and Generations inks (I
think).  Part of the trick seems to be to invest in a profiling
package so that you can really push the gamut of the inkset to its

I saw Mark's results first hand and recently bought a 1200 and CFS. I bought
an Epson 750 in '99.  Over the next year I studied prints from many
different printers -- from the EX to the 1270, 1160 & 3000 etc. I personally
didn't see much practical difference in output if everything was set up
properly (no small if). 

At one point I thought the 1270 had an edge. Then I saw prints that
impressed me even more. Turned out they were printed on an EX. I'm convinced
that the person behind the printer is more important than the actual
printer. Profiling, setup and technique all play a role. 

Just recently I bought a new 1200 on close out. The printer, plus a CFS
system with six-color MIS Archival ink, was less than the cost of a new
discounted 1270. 

I put MIS Quadtones in my 750. I print b/w on my 1200 with color inks as
often as on the 750. I can get a sepia look with color inks that I can't get
with quadtones, for obvious reasons. I primarily print ink jets for samples
and proofs. I have a b/w darkroom in my home and use it for anything I
consider "long term". 

I'm having some difficulty getting used to the idea of ink-jet for archival
b/w. But that's just me. I have a certain comfort level with archivally
processed, toned silver halide prints. I don't get that same warm fuzzy
feeling with ink jet prints.  Knocking out ink jet prints is certainly more
convenient. And most of the time it's impossible to see a difference. It's
just a matter of time before I come around.