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Subject: [Leica] Leica M6 Anniversary
From: jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj)
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2024 09:22:59 +0530
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Perfection is in the eye of the beholder.

More so when the eye cannot judge accurate focus, thanks to age! ?

Cheers
Jayanand

On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 8:13?AM Frank Filippone via LUG <lug at 
leica-users.org>
wrote:

> It is also fair to mention that there are a LOT of M's out there.  Spare
> parts could be fashioned form raw steel, etc or could be scavenged form a
> different body.   Any mechanical camera can be made today, given the right
> technical skills.
>
> But you can not, without billions of dollars, make a 256mb dRam chip.  And
> that is why digital camera have given life spans.  Parts to make them are
> out of production.
>
> Ever notic how every new DigiM is compared to the M3?  Says something
> special about that M3.
>
> And there is one more salient comment.... an M3, even form the original
> series of manufacture (1953? 1954?) , is still a state of the art camera.
> It
> has never been eclipsed.  While I like to think of the M6 as THE best M,
> with its built in meter, the M3 is equally capable of making equally great
> images.  It is no better than an M3.
>
> In digital, with all the features, and with technology making new designs
> imperative ( the old 1GB Ram chips are long out of production as an
> example,
> another being the Motorola 68000 PowerPC processors that fueled Apple's
> success, when Motorola discontinued it, and Apple had to use Intel
> processors....) and bigger is better, the classic M is timeless.  Nothing
> eclipses it.
>
> Try saying that about an M8.  Not going to happen.
>
> Quickie History on Leica digital cameras....
>
> The S1, a huge, first in the world Digi camera, that succeeded, to some
> degree, in the market to archive documents.  A failure otherwise.
>
> The M8.  APS-C sensor killed it as full frame sensors became pretty
> universal.
>
> The M9.  The sensor cover glass fiasco killed this camera, although the
> Monochrom is still a desirable camera.
>
> The M240.  Ridiculed for being 3mm too thick.  ( If you want proof that
> thee isTHE correct sized Leica camera, look at what happened to the M5).
> The
> 24MP sensor was designed and made FOR LEICA, when Sony turned down Leica
> as a customer.  While I have no real facts on this, the commercial need to
> make a new IC ( a digital sensor is an IC that is special purpose) was so
> great that they produced with this design way too late, just for the sake
> of
> a contract to produce or purchase enough.  At least they somewhat learned
> their lesson....
>
> Th M10 was going to go nowhere, At 24MP it was hard to differentiate to a
> M240, except for that terribly large and bulky 3mm thing.......BTW, 3mm is
> slightly less than 1/8 of an inch. after Leica armed it with a 40MP sensor
> (M10-R) it was an instant winner.
>
> The M11, at 60MP is state of the art, in terms of features.  Customers
> claim it has too much resolution.  (You can not win no matter what you
> do.....)  the money is betting that the M10M or M10R is THE ideal DIgi M.
> Enough resolution.
>
> But my story is that each of these cameras was a major improvement (or
> maybe the word ...further.... is better),  than its predecessor.  And thus
> it
> REPLACED its predecessor, making the previous model fully eclipsed.
>
> Never happened with the traditional film M.  Perfection from day 1.
>
>
>
> Frank Filippone
> BMWRed735i at Gmail.com
>
> On 9/24/2024 11:14 AM, Dan Khong via LUG wrote:
> > Only 10% of my cameras are digital, the rest being film. I don't expect
> my
> > digital cameras to live beyond 20 years at most. Hardly any manufacturer
> > will keep electronic spares for so long. They make more money selling new
> > cameras. The IIIf and M6 can live so long because they are mechanical
> film
> > types which can be repaired by any competent repairman.
> >
> > Dan K.
> >
> > On Tue, 24 Sept 2024 at 22:31, Lluis Ripoll via LUG<lug at 
> > leica-users.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Happy Birthday Leica M6!
> >>
> >> Today my M6 is 27 years old, still very young, my IIIF is 70 years old!
> >> I hope that digital artifacts has also a long life!
> >> #LeicaM6#lluisripollphotography
> >>
> >> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Leica_M6.jpg.html>
> >>
> >> Saludos cordiales
> >> Lluis
> >>
> >>
> >>
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