Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2024/05/29
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Hi Jayanand, my friend I completely understand your arguments and even I share that technolgy would hep us to obtain better images, but this is not my target, I conceive photography as a craftsmanship and I like to take a photo from start to finish, which is why I make very limited use of cropping and have no interest in AI. A few days ago I was talking to a friend who writes photographic reviews and he told me that I'm like a Diplodocus.... Ha, ha, ha, ha!!!! Cheers! Lluis > El 28 maig 2024, a les 7:29, Jayanand Govindaraj via LUG <lug at > leica-users.org> va escriure: > > The only reason that I use cameras with 45MP sensors is that it gives me > the latitude to crop and eschew carrying 600/800mm behemoths altogether. > Besides, I can switch to DX mode with the press of a button with a narrower > angle of view to compose/track with, and still get 20MP images. I do not > otherwise need 45MP for anything I need to do with any image. > > We just need to choose our tools carefully to suit our needs. > > Cheers > Jayanand > > On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 9:56?PM Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> > wrote: > >> I would like to add to Sonny's comments on cropping. The newer high >> resolution sensors and the newer lens designs that can deliver detail at >> those pixel pitch points allow incredible crops. Then you have the new AI >> interfaces that will believably create new pixels to increase the image >> size for reproduction purposes. >> >> I can imagine that the Leica Q4 with 100mp sensor and a 24mm lens will be >> very attractive: I know I greatly enjoy the freedoms of 60mp and the new >> lenses available. Even the sorta lowly Sony 20mm produces stunning images >> never mind what comes out of the 135 F1.8 or the 40mm F1.4 or... >> >> On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 8:10?AM Sonny Carter via LUG <lug at >> leica-users.org> >> wrote: >> >>> May I pipe up about cropping? It surely depends on your style of >>> shooting. I usually am most interested in the moment over the >> composition, >>> and that even goes for shooting flowers. I rarely shoot with a macro, >> more >>> often a wide to normal focal length. I almost never use a tripod, and >>> usually, images are made in the ?wild? without any lighting or >> reflectors, >>> etc. >>> >>> Probably my technique stems from a past life as a photojournalist. >> Thus, I >>> shoot only a few images an outing, much like I did when using film. The >>> upshot is that I still am pretty choosy about what I show, so I end up >>> often heavily cropping without shame. It all comes from the concept >> that I >>> am showing you what I see; ?Look!? or to express it in biblical terms, >>> ?Behold!? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Sonny >>> www.SonC.Com/Look >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 5:11?AM Lluis Ripoll via LUG < >> lug at leica-users.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Jayanand, Alan >>>> >>>> Thank you verymuch for your advices, It is true, I do not use much care >>>> with the images digitized with the scanner, this instrument enhances >> the >>>> smallest details of the negatives that are totally invisible in the >>>> enlarger when making a wet copy, which for me is what counts. A few >> days >>>> ago I had a negative with countless white dots, I immediately made a >>>> 9.5x12" copy in my darkroom, it turned out completely clean, so >>>> digitization for me is just a reference, I had stopped making a contact >>>> sheet and I'm going to do it again because it teaches you how the copy >>> will >>>> turn out and also about the exposure values in relation to development. >>> The >>>> digitized photo allows greater correctable tolerance when editing, a >>>> negative requires greater accuracy. Thanks anyway and I will try to >> take >>>> more care in some details such as the margins. >>>> >>>> Regarding the shot, it is difficult to reach the so-called decisive >>>> moment, on many occasions you have to choose whether to take the photo >> at >>>> that moment or lose the image completely, I try to preserve the image >>>> despite imperfections. >>>> >>>> Regarding cropping, I think it is an old discussion, in general I don't >>>> like to practice big cropping, only small adjustments. There is a great >>>> influence between what the photographer has seen when taking the image >>> and >>>> what has awakened his emotion and what the viewer sees. It is very >>>> important to me to be as close as possible to the image initially seen, >>>> which is what motivated me to take the photo, and a cropped image does >>> not >>>> always reflect what subjectively caught my attention. Another thing is >>>> different if that image It may have seemed interesting to me, it is >>>> actually a mistake. >>>> >>>> Thank you again for your constructive comments that raise great topics >> of >>>> discussion that it is not easy for me to follow in a language that is >> not >>>> my own and that I need to use an automatic translator. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Lluis >>>> >>>> >>>>> El 27 maig 2024, a les 5:59, Alan Magayne-Roshak via LUG < >>>> lug at leica-users.org> va escriure: >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, 27 May 2024 Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> These are nice, but a few are spoiled, IMHO, by extraneous objects >>>>>> intruding on the margins. I would think that either cropping the >>>> frame, or >>>>>> them and cleaning them up would work wonders, after which you >>>>>> can always print out a digital negative for darkroom printing. >>>> Airbrushing >>>>>> has been a staple of the photographer's toolkit since the dawn of >>> Ansel >>>>>> Adams, so there is no need to wring one's hands at the faithlessness >>> of >>>> it >>>>>> all! :-) >>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> Jayanand >>>>> ==================================================================== >>>>> I totally agree. Lluis, you take wonderful pictures, but sometimes >> the >>>>> moment happens >>>>> before all is sorted out. One thing I stressed when I taught a >>> continuing >>>>> education course >>>>> was (as much as possible) check the edges of the frame before >> tripping >>>> the >>>>> shutter, but >>>>> there was no shame in cropping. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Alan >>>>> >>>>> Alan Magayne-Roshak, Senior Photographer >>>>> University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee Photo Services >>>>> (Retired) >>>>> UPAA Photographer of the Year 1978 >>>>> UPAA Master of the Profession 2014 >>>>> amagayneroshak at gmail.com >>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Alan+Magayne-Roshak/> >>>>> >>>>> "All the technique in the world doesn't compensate >>>>> for an inability to notice. " - Elliott Erwitt >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> -- >> Don >> don.dory at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information