Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2021/06/07

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Subject: [Leica] Picking up old lenses
From: don.dory at gmail.com (Don Dory)
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2021 08:26:16 -0500
References: <CA+3n+_==rW44PqNiQ1HzVAQMNezCN2kSKrm8PzHdJtcmQjWr_w@mail.gmail.com> <d1b9ef51-acbc-d68f-3ada-009a72f266ec@iol.ie>

That is part of the conundrum.   The new glass is very,  very good.   But
it is also very large and heavy relatively speaking.  Leica's new glass
sits a performance loss in the M version vs the SL version albeit probably
chart not actual: the size and weight difference is substantial.

The question that each must answer is where is the crossing point for value
in image quality,  size,  weight,  and cost.   I know some coin
photographers that must have 20 kilos of gear and combine 40 plus images to
get an image of a coin.   Vacationing with a toddler with all the things
you need to support the toddler a large I phone might seem to big.

On Mon, Jun 7, 2021, 7:45 AM Douglas Barry <imra at iol.ie> wrote:

> I have to agree. I tend to normally do street shooting and am happy with
> a good 50mm or 35mm on my Sony, but sometimes occasionally I do need
> longer lenses or even macros. However, I have a collection of various
> lenses picked up over the years, but find many of them give
> unsatisfactory performances using the five different Fotodiox adapters I
> have - Leica, M42, Pentax K, Miranda and Olympus. I've more or less
> written off Pentax, but find the M42 fine.
>
> Here's a pic using my old Pentacon 135/2.8 (first series) on my Sony A7II.
>
>
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/DouglasBray/Oddments/Pentacon+f2point8+135mm+First+Series+test+at+2point8+from+7+metres.jpg.html
>
> This is a test shot of focus from seven metres away on Aldi lettering on
> top of an aluminium pole at f2.8 ISO 100 1/250s No sharpening done or
> resizing from 6000x4000. File size reduced from 10.7MB to 757kb only.
> Zoom in on the pole to see definition.
>
> While this lens combo works, many others are very poor, and inevitably
> I'll probably have to buy Sony E mount lenses.
>
> Douglas
>
>
> On 06/06/2021 22:02, Don Dory via LUG wrote:
> > This isn't about a great lens I found.  What I am really questioning is
> > using equipment that is "good enough"  I stumbled on a 40mm Makro Kilfit
> > f3.5 D version at a stupidly cheap price.  Even in Exacta mount that
> wasn't
> > an obstacle with a mirrorless body.  It is a four element in three group
> > design. Using it I found it quite usable wide open if you kept the main
> > subject in the center third.  Stopped down to 5.6-8 it was quite usable
> out
> > to the outer third.
> >
> > Even compared to the Leica 60mm Macro it is half the size and weight.
> So,
> > what is everybodies feelings about good enough even though modern
> > technology will be far superior?  I know more than several members have
> > transitioned to the Q2 for the size, weight, and simplicity of use.
> >
> > Part of this is that younger photographers need a beginning place.  Most
> of
> > us started out on used equipment that worked and as our fortunes and
> > interests matured we acquired better tools.  My child didn't really get
> an
> > income that would support a lot of hobbies until thirty after the PhD.
> > Many folk don't get to that point so the tools need to be more reasonable
> > than a $2000 M body and a $500 foggy Russian lens.
> >
> > Anyway, thoughts?
> >
>
>
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