Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2020/10/26
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Merci Philippe, je suis d?accord, mais en fran?ais j?appr?cie mieux les nuances d?une conversation, je vais continuer ? pousser le bouton, rassure-toi! Je t?embrasse aussi, bon fin de soir?e Lluis > El 26 oct 2020, a les 20:38, Philippe via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> va > escriure: > > Lluis > > and Don, > > Rassure toi, Lluis > Don?t panic > > on ne se bat pas, loin de l? > We?re not fighting, far from it - are we Don? not that I know > > On partage des points de vue > We?re just exchanging views > > qui n?engagent que nous > that only commit ourselves > > mais je crois que Don a bien vu ton changement d?approche aussi > But I think Don perceived the change in your approach too > > Ne cherche pas d?excuses > Don?t try to justify > > Nous sommes des spectateurs > We are viewers > > Et nos visions sont biais?es par nos cultures, nos experiences, et nos > attentes > And our visions are biassed by our own cultures, experiences, and > expectations :-) > > > En tout cas, continue ? nous enflammer avec tes photos, et appuie sur le > bouton jusqu?? ce qu?il g?le - pas demain la veille ? Bar?a me dit-on ;-) > In any case, keep the fire on as is with your photos, and press that > button until it freezes - unlikely in Barcelona at this period of the year > ;-) > > Et reste MASQUE ! > > Je t?embrasse > > > Philippe > > > >> Le 26 oct. 2020 ? 20:24, Lluis Ripoll via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> a >> ?crit : >> >> Philippe, Don >> >> What I can and must explain is first of all, I don't like taking photos >> in the current circumstances, people are suspicious, you can't get close, >> photos in the park are for me very boring to take, street photography in >> more crowded environments goes more unnoticed and also generates >> attractive situations for the photographer. Unfortunately this is the >> time we have had to live in? >> >> Amiti?s >> Lluis >> >> >>> El 26 oct 2020, a les 20:13, Philippe via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> >>> va escriure: >>> >>> Don, I don?t know about Feiniger who may have had his/her merits. >>> >>> What I see is Lluis?s work as presented in today?s context. And knowing >>> the guy Lluis, I perceive that his change in visualisation owes nothing >>> to anything deliberate - Lluis shoots according to the circumstances, >>> and faithfully reports on i) what he sees, ii) what he feels ii)how he >>> can achieve a testimony. This is how I sense the whole thing (think of >>> the Ferrari shot, the car is immaterial, the encourter with the shopping >>> cart tells me Lluis is a vigilant observer of our times. Time will tell, >>> and I don?t know who is right and who is wrong here. >>> >>> I would certainly not like to start a fight or a quarrel - better I >>> believe that this thread is the first one in ages when we discuss the >>> merrits of photographs other than in terms of like/don?t like, and the >>> soul of photography. I?m thankful to Lluis and you to have brought this >>> up. >>> >>> >>> Amities >>> >>> Philippe >>> >>> >>> >>>> Le 26 oct. 2020 ? 17:07, Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> a >>>> ?crit : >>>> >>>> Philippe, your point about isolation being portrayed with the intent of >>>> the >>>> subjects to remain a part of the culture is well taken. This is an >>>> arguable artistic point; imagine "Morning in the park" cropped tightly >>>> to >>>> the se?orita and her shadow back to the right. The tightness would be >>>> similar to the Feinenger image of the woman at the corner of a building >>>> so >>>> the se?orita is walking out of the frame with the background including >>>> the >>>> people on the bench almost disappearing into the blur. >>>> >>>> Seeing the artists vision and then imagining the situation in different >>>> frames is why art is so important for a culture and for a culture to >>>> communicate to others outside what it is to be inside. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 10:06 AM Philippe via LUG <lug at >>>> leica-users.org> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> That?s a different type of photos, Don is right. >>>>> >>>>> But I like it to be able to see these people in a larger frame. These >>>>> are >>>>> not portraits. Nor Plans Americains. They are people in isolation >>>>> trying to >>>>> pretend they may live an instant of normal life. And the large framing >>>>> weighs into this direction. >>>>> >>>>> BTW #1 & #3 show their backs, as if they were about to leave the frame >>>>> and >>>>> a director?s CUT ! was about to resonate on the set with an Italian >>>>> accent >>>>> ;-) >>>>> >>>>> Keep wearing that mask Lluis, and shooting with a vengeance :-) >>>>> >>>>> Amities >>>>> >>>>> Philippe >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Le 26 oct. 2020 ? 15:41, Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> a >>>>>> ?crit >>>>> : >>>>>> >>>>>> Lluis, your sense of light remains strong. I do think that you are >>>>>> responsibly distancing yourself which detracts from the strength of >>>>>> your >>>>>> vision. To stay safe I suggest you transition to a 75 Summilux or a >>>>>> 90 >>>>> to >>>>>> be safe but recapture the intimacy and clarity of your photography. >>>>>> Alternatively, I am not "getting" the isolation or loneliness you may >>>>>> be >>>>>> trying to convey, but I will return to your images later this week >>>>>> when I >>>>>> have more time to view them and perhaps better understand the images. >>>>>> >>>>>> Be safe and keep showing us your city. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 6:06 AM Lluis Ripoll via LUG < >>>>> lug at leica-users.org> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Weelchair?s walk >>>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Barcelona/2020F100108.jpg.html >>>>>> >>>>>>> Leica M6, Summilux 35 pre, Ilford HP5, D-23 1:3 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A morning in the Park >>>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Barcelona/2020F100111.jpg.html >>>>>> >>>>>>> Leica M6, Noctilux 50, Ilford HP5, D-23 1:3 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Walking with the Dog >>>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Barcelona/2020F100112.jpg.html >>>>>> >>>>>>> Leica M6, Noctilux 50, Ilford HP5, D-23 1:3 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for looking, your c&c are welcome >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Saludos cordiales >>>>>>> Lluis >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Don >>>>>> don.dory at gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Don >>>> don.dory at gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information