Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2020/03/22
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Let?s not be too smug. I am keeping to the restrictions, I am not overweight, and I quit smoking 11 years ago. But my immune system is weakened by rheumatoid arthritis and the treatment I get for it. So the calculus is somewhat different for me. Cheers, Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws <http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ <http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator <http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator> YNWA "I?m not arguing, I?m just explaining why I?m right" > On 22 Mar 2020, at 16:23, Jayanand Govindaraj via LUG <lug at > leica-users.org> wrote: > > As far as I know, there has been no death between the ages of 0-10 years > worldwide, and the death rate is negligible between the ages of 10-19. I > suggest you ingest the math of probability - in layman's terms, the chances > of death for an individual are not impossible, but improbable, as it is > with most pandemics/epidemics. The same probabilities probably are valid > for being run over by a car when crossing the road, or dying in an air > crash. Life, however, goes on.... > > The large majority of those for whom the disease proves fatal are over 75 > years - I do not know about Europe, but the vast majority of Asians, > especially Chinese, in that age bracket are smokers, and it not surprising > that they get well and truly whacked by a virulent respiratory ailment. The > west, however, might face another threat altogether, not due to smoking, > but obesity, and hence might be more dangerous for younger age brackets. We > will have to wait and see. > > Cheers > Jayanand > > On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 8:34 PM Jean-Michel Mertz via LUG < > lug at leica-users.org> wrote: > >> For the time being, I'd remain very wary about interpreting current >> statistics. Where I live - same part of France as Philippe though much >> closer to the infection hotbed - the situation varies from town to town, >> from village to village. The evangelical gathering already mentioned >> (mid-Feb, Mulhouse, thirty miles from where I live) was at the start of >> France's first coronavirus cluster zone: thousands of people attended, got >> the virus and then spread it throughout France, Europe and even as far as >> South America. Today hospitals in my area cannot cope anymore with the >> number of people in need of ICU beds and ventilators and hard choices have >> already to be made. Some relief is expected when the Army field hospital >> is >> up - tomorrow they say. But that's about 30 beds. A number of patients are >> flown to other parts of France. >> >> So this gathering has dramatically inflated our statistics. >> >> Locally, we're aware of what's happening and respect the rules. In the >> south-west of France or in Brittany, for instance - same country, same >> statistics nationwide- you'd get a different picture altogether. That's >> exactly what's happening in the US: California and NY will be hard hit and >> are bracing for the tsunami whereas other places appear to be less >> concerned - for now. >> >> Granted, we do not test people enough, we're not strict enough with >> confinement rules. In fact, there's only one rule, stay at home. One of my >> friends, an ER doctor in one of Strasbourg's public hospitals, goes on >> repeating this virus is VERY contagious, VERY dangerous for fragile >> people, >> young or old. >> >> And this will last for some time. We're supposed to reach a peak this week >> - but this is may be true for Alsace or the Paris area, certainly not for >> the rest of France. >> JM >> Jean-Michel Mertz >> 68750 - Bergheim >> >> ________________________________ >> De : LUG <lug-bounces+j2m46=hotmail.fr at leica-users.org> de la part de >> Don >> Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> >> Envoy? : dimanche 22 mars 2020 12:54 >> ? : Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Cc : Don Dory <don.dory at gmail.com> >> Objet : Re: [Leica] Whereas I found this article terrifying >> >> My take away from the article was that the undiagnosed infection rates >> were >> far higher than anyone wants to admit. Even on high test states such as >> S. KOREA there appears to be a good number of walking infected >> asymtommatic. >> >> More relevant would be comments from our European members as to the very >> disparate mortality rates of Germany to France(~100 to ~400) Even >> backtracking for population numbers France has a much higher mortality >> rate >> with a similar proficiency in medical capabilities. Both countries should >> have had similar initial exposure profiles and I assume reasonably similar >> internal movement/ external tourism but I would like to know more. >> >> On Sat, Mar 21, 2020, 11:15 PM Brian Reid <reid at mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >> https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/03/13/science.abb3221.full >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information