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Subject: [Leica] the new normal
From: john at mcmaster.co.uk (John McMaster)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2020 08:53:00 +0000
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We are not talking poor, more a case of not being able to cover bills and 
mortgages.  If, as expected, this carries on over the summer then that will 
be +18 months without an income for seasonal businesses.....

john

-----Original Message-----
From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.uk at leica-users.org] On 
Behalf Of Philippe via LUG
Sent: 18 March 2020 08:46
To: Leica Users Group
Cc: Philippe
Subject: Re: [Leica] the new normal

Well, the dead no longer need money. 

Better alive poor than ?

 
Amities

Philippe



> Le 18 mars 2020 ? 09:35, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.uk> a ?crit :
> 
> Spoken as a true employed civil servant ;-)   All those 'restaurants, 
> caf?s, bars' still have overheads and probably staff to pay.  In the UK 
> Johnson has said that we should not travel or go to bars / eateries, this 
> means that only those with 'pandemic insurance' are covered, he has to 
> force the bars etc to close to let them get their business continuity 
> insurance payouts.   Around here many businesses are small and seasonal, 
> we are all coming out after living for months on money made during the 
> season and need Easter traffic to boost the bank accounts - that is not 
> going to happen....
> 
> john
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.uk at leica-users.org] On 
> Behalf Of Nathan Wajsman
> Sent: 18 March 2020 07:30
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] the new normal
> 
> Here in Spain we are effectively in house arrest. The situation is serious 
> but I am glad that strong action is being taken. I am worried that US is 
> too disorganised to take such action in time, and also the public health 
> system has too many holes to be truly effective, and the lack of 
> protection for workers means that many people will go to work even if they 
> are not well, and?
> 
> I am working from home, as is everyone else who can. Supermarkets, 
> pharmacies, post offices, SOME bank branches are open and there are no 
> shortages. All basic services function normally. But no restaurants, 
> caf?s, bars, museums, concerts etc. No going for a walk or a bike ride 
> unless going to buy food, medicines and for a few other permitted reasons. 
> I have ordered an exercise bike online, should be here next week.
> 
> My wife went to the supermarket and got us some Guinness yesterday, I made 
> an Irish stew and my daughter baked a loaf of soda bread, and we had a 
> nice St Patrick?s Day dinner. 
> 
> Cheers,
> Nathan
> 
> Nathan Wajsman
> 
> Alicante, Spain
> 
> 
>> On 18 Mar 2020, at 03:49, Mark Kronquist via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Happy St Patrick?s Day! There is no corned beef or cabbage to be found in 
>> the bare markets and the one Guinness came from my fridge. 
>> 
>> How long before it makes economic sense to import beer from Ireland 
>> again? Did it ever?
>> 
>> Portland and the suburbs, including Stayton, were built on 
>> Flavortainment. What flavor is in people?s mouths now?
>> 
>> I spent many years working as a City Councilor, Planning Commissioner, 
>> Parks Board Member, Vice Chair of the Parks Board and School Board 
>> Liaison doing what I could to serve brilliant, determined business people 
>> who wanted to pursue their now shuttered and perhaps shattered dreams. 
>> Tonight, I look out my door. Mick and Mom's is having a last call party. 
>> Snow Peak Brewery right next door is closed. The new high end pub that 
>> was scheduled to open today probably never will. The food carts are gone. 
>> The cafes and coffee shops shut, many for good. The curtain has come down 
>> on the promising little theater that opened to rave reviews in December. 
>> There are no stars on the silver screen of the Star theater. The Moose 
>> and Elk lodges are empty perhaps to return to pasture. As Alice Cooper 
>> said, School?s Out for the Summer?in mid March?the library, pool and city 
>> offices are closed. 
>> 
>> The street lights light empty streets and highlight the possible death of 
>> a downtown renascence.
>> 
>> How long will the lights stay on if there are, as the Imperial College 
>> study predicts, two million deaths in the US before August?
>> 
>> How many downtowns across America and the world are experiencing the same 
>> thing? Is this the new normal?
>> 
> 
> 



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