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Subject: [Leica] Nikon et al vs Mirrorless cameras
From: sonc.hegr at gmail.com (Sonny Carter)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2020 19:50:04 -0600
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Doug Herr  has been known to photograph a bird or two and he uses a Sony
A7r4.


Regards,

Sonny
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Natchitoches, Louisiana
1714
Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase

USA


On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 6:41 PM Frank Filippone via LUG <lug at 
leica-users.org>
wrote:

> I have friends that had Nikon, then tried the Fuji for flying birds.  All
> of them have said that the Fuji is far inferior.  Nikon is supposed to be
> #1.
> The Sony A9ii is a camera that might take it on in performance, but I have
> not seen comments on it yet.
>
> Note that the D5 and the D500 have had equally positive results.  The other
> NIkons are far inferior......
>
> Of course, use what works for you..  Best advice out there.....
>
>
> Frank Filippone
> BMWRed735i at gmail.com
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:32 AM Howard Cummer via LUG <lug at 
> leica-users.org
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Frank,
> >
> > I am off to the Calgary zoo this sunny afternoon with the Grands and the
> > Z6 with adaptor and the 300 f4.0 Pf. Will see how it performs. It is a
> warm
> > day in Calgary today (just above freezing) so I hope the batteries will
> > perform well. The two batteries that come with the loan kit are not
> holding
> > charge particularly well - or perhaps the Z6 is a power hog. I don?t know
> > which - but I have some newish batteries with me for the D500 and I am
> > using them instead so will see how they perform. Kudos to Nikon for not
> > changing the batteries for the Z series.
> >
> > About my bird flying photography comment I have cycled through using
> Nikon
> > D300S, D750, D4, D800E and the best combo for capturing birds on the fly,
> > in my experience, is the D500 with whatever zoom (I use the 200 - 500VR)
> > or fixed lens (the 300 f4.0 Pf) works best for the conditions.
> >
> > I have tried to give Fuji a chance to be my birder camera. I have the
> Fuji
> > XH1 and the 100 - 400 Fuji zoom, and have tried several times to use this
> > combo at my usual eagle photo site and the results, compared to the D500,
> > are not rewarding. The Fuji?s ability to lock on to a flying bird is not
> in
> > the same league as the Nikon?s - despite what one may read on the
> internet.
> > And locked on follow focus is not as good either, if capture focus is
> > attained.
> >
> > Now I have great respect for Fuji?s design and lens quality so perhaps
> one
> > day they will catch up but I suspect some of the problem is inherent in
> the
> > way EVF?s work compared to OVF?s.  At one time I was also kitted out
> with a
> > complete Olympus Micro 4/3rds outfit and I used it, quite successfully,
> on
> > an African safari - but there weren?t many flying bird shots. I gave up
> on
> > it when, with each software upgrade, the camera settings defaulted to
> > factory settings and I had to go through and reset all my preferred
> > settings.
> >
> > I don?t want to start a war over which is better and which is dying and
> > what is surging but for me that answer, at the moment, is to keep using
> the
> > D500 / 300 f4.0
> > combo for my birds and (perhaps) try the Z7 for my panos and landscape
> > work - as a replacement for my trusty old D800E. For me I have to use the
> > equipment and form my opinion for my own experience. My comment is not
> > meant in any way to demean anyone?s opinion - It?s just the way I find
> out
> > what is true for my shooting style. I am sure that EVF cameras will equal
> > and hopefully exceed the D500 standard some time in the future, as you
> > suggest, and I look forward to trying them then, if I?m still around
> > (approaching 77).
> >
> > Warm regards,
> >
> > Howard
> >
> >
> > Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2020 07:45:42 -1000
> > From: Frank Filippone <bmwred735i at gmail.com <mailto:bmwred735i at 
> > gmail.com
> >>
> > To: LUG <lug at leica-users.org <mailto:lug at leica-users.org>>
> > Subject: [Leica] Nikon et al vs MIrrorless cameras
> >
> >  Peter and Howard have been having a debate on Nikon ( specifically) Z6
> > camera progress to replacing all DSLR with Mirrorless models.
> >
> > A different perspective....
> > First the interchange.....
> > The loan program shows how desperate Nikon is to convince Nikon users to
> > move from DSLRs to the EVF models. The latter are competent, as you can
> > see,
> > but I am not sure that they will be as versatile as the old mirror prisms
> > on the DSLRs - especially for the flying bird photography that I do
> >
> > . . .
> >
> > If you want a bird imaging camera, with the Nikon brand on front, it is
> > coming.  As good as the D5 or D500.  Better.  Just wait a couple more
> > years....... maybe sooner.....
> > Because you ain't going to see new, high end DSLR development in the
> > future.  Brand N or C..  Or other.
> >
> > Frank Filippone
> > BMWRed735i at gmail.com <mailto:BMWRed735i at gmail.com>
> >
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In reply to: Message from hcummer at gmail.com (Howard Cummer) ([Leica] Nikon et al vs Mirrorless cameras)
Message from bmwred735i at gmail.com (Frank Filippone) ([Leica] Nikon et al vs Mirrorless cameras)