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Subject: [Leica] Bokeh, for Ted
From: tedgrant at shaw.ca (Ted Grant)
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2019 10:41:47 -0700
References: <5f3222df-b2d0-3b7b-e3bd-ec6a07a4d04d@gmail.com> <CAH1UNJ1ssbTZZgrE=dsPbi-G2uuz7wGuCn6pyAH5Xc5UZZvVWg@mail.gmail.com>

THANK YOU jAYANAND & PETER FOR  THE BOHEK INFORMATION!

HOWEVER, A QUESTION? WHEN I NEVER UNDERSTOOD ANYTHING ABOUT BOHEK AND MANY
OTHER TECHNICAL BITS AND PIECES LOOKING AT THE FINISHED PHOTO. ACTUALLY
NEVER KNEW WHAT BOHEK AND MANY OTHER THINGS WERE? THE PICTURE KINDA LOOKED
NICE?ERGO? 
I BELEIVE I DID SHOOT SOME NOT BAD PHOTOS OF ALL KINDS OF SUBJECTS FROM
CLOSE/UP'S OF FLOWERS,PLANE/CAR CRASHES, WARS, PORTRAITS & WHATEVER THINGS?
MEDICAL SCENES/OPERATIONS /(BIRTHINGS AND NICE PEOPLE PORTRAITS???????
I ALWAYS LIKED NICE BKGRDS/MIDDLE GRNDS. AND SCREWED AROUND TWEAKING THINGS
UNTIL IT LOOKED COOL. 
BUT STILL DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS, NOR HOW I DID IT? OTHER THAN FIDDLING
THINGS UNTIL THE PHOTO LOOKED NICER WITH MY TWEAKING?
I THINK MY MAIN ATTENTION WAS ALWAYS "HOW GOOD THE CONTENT LOOKED BEFORE
HANDING THE PHOTO SPREADS INTO THE PHOTO-EDITOR. NOT KNOWING ANY OF THE
PHOTO-JARGON!"  I SUPPOSE I DID A FEW THINGS RIGHT GIVEN THE OUTCOME OF MY
CAREER?:)
BUT WITHOUT QUESTION???? I'M ALWAYS READY TO "LEARN!" SO, PLEASE "TEACH ME
AND LEAD ME TO BECOME BETTER! AS I'LL ALWAYS GIVE SUGGESTIONS A TRY!!!!!!
WHY?
QUITE SIMPLE REALLY! WE NEVER STOP LEARNING!!!!THANKYOU MOST KINDLY FOLKS!
CHEERS
Dr. ted grant O.C.


-----Original Message-----
From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On Behalf 
Of
Jayanand Govindaraj via LUG
Sent: September-27-19 11:48 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Cc: Jayanand Govindaraj; Peter Klein
Subject: Re: [Leica] Bokeh, for Ted

Peter,
It would not matter if I were a photojournalist, I would want to get the
shot, period. The shelf life of these photos is short, after all.

It would matter if I were a fine art photographer, selling prints for a
living, because I would want harmony in the shot.

For the rest of us amateur hobbyists, it is just waffling, nobody but
friends are going to see the shot.

By the way, I personally love creamy bokeh, and the isolation of the
subject that results from it, I choose my lenses accordingly, but that is
more for personal satisfaction more than anything else!

Cheers
Jayanand

On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 12:01 PM Peter Klein via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
wrote:

> Ted, here's an example that will show you why good bokeh is better than
> bad bokeh, especially for people like you and me who like to shoot at
> wide apertures in "available darkness." This link shows two crops from
> the same scene, taken with two different lenses at almost the same
> aperture (f/1.4 and f/1.5).
> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/temp/NoktonBokeh1_2vs1_5.jpg.html
> >
>
> The image on the bottom was taken with the 50/1.5 Voigtlander Nokton
> I've been using for years. It's a good lens, but it renders out-of-focus
> highlights with bright edges. This can be very jarring and detract from
> the main subject.  Look at the reflected highlights on the curved metal
> sink pipe.  See how they have a bright edge and a bright dot in the
> center?  You can see much the same thing on the wine bottle at bottom
> center.  Also, look at orange and blue bag of potato chips at lower
> left.  Same thing.
>
> Now look at the top image. This was taken with the new, improved 50/1.2
> Nokton, shot at f/1.4.  Here, in all cases, the out-of-focus circles are
> much more diffused and even.  Much less distracting. Much nicer.  Which
> would you rather have just behind your main subject?
>
> See what I mean?
>
> --Peter
>
>
>
>
>
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In reply to: Message from boulanger.croissant at gmail.com (Peter Klein) ([Leica] Bokeh, for Ted)
Message from jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj) ([Leica] Bokeh, for Ted)