Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2019/04/02

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Subject: [Leica] New Leica!
From: jbmmllug at jbm.org (Jeff Moore)
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2019 15:55:52 -0400
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On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 3:37 PM Tina Manley via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
wrote:

> As far as I know, it always returns to the center after you take a photo
> and you have to use the joystick to move it.  Since I almost never use
> manual focus, it's not a nuisance to me.
>

That behavior continues to be a disappointment.  (What's not a
disappointment is the image quality the SL delivers!)

When I did this year's photo documentation of the WFMU Fundraising Marathon:

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/jbm0/albums/72157676960514057

...I decided to save a few bucks by just renting current-tech bodies, and
using lenses I already owned.

Initially, I thought I'd save even more by not renting an SL body at all,
and got a recent fancy Olympus micro-4/3s body and a recent Canon
fullframe, since I had appropriate glass for those.

But after beginning the first week with those bodies ? getting okay but not
SL results, with low-light high-ISO results looking kind of oatmealy and
undersaturated ? I put in my order to get the SL for the second week.  And
you may see the difference in the pictures in the above gallery.  (Flickr
shows you EXIF, so it's easy to see what camera was used for what)

But since I was using only my manual-focus R and M lenses on the SL rather
than the new autofocus SL lenses, I had a lot of interactions with the SL's
focus magnifier controls.  I wish they'd get that right.  The Olympus OM-D
E-M1 Mk 2 does the right thing!  You The focus mag location stays where you
left it, and you can even set it before you bring the camera to your eye!

But the pictures just aren't in the same ballpark as what you get from the
SL's sensor.



>
> Tina
>
> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 11:21 AM Jeff Moore <jbmmllug at jbm.org> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 11:05 AM Brian Reid <reid at 
> > mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > For those of us with bad eyes, digital zoom does offer one advantage:
> it
> > > lets me get a closer look at what the camera is pointing at. What I
> wish
> > > it did is to let me zoom the viewfinder but still capture the entire
> > > frame. But it doesn't, on any camera I've ever seen.
> >
> > You must not mean what I'm reading your words to mean.  Because every
> > decent electronic-viewfinder camera I've used lets you magnify the
> > image to do manual focusing, and that operation does not change what
> > field of view the sensor captures when you push the take-a-picture
> > button.
> >
> > The Leica SL, for example ? push in on the little joystick thing on
> > the back, and it magnifies for manual focus.  The joystick thing lets
> > you move the magnified area around in the frame.  The only recurring
> > failure in the SL's user interface (and maybe I just don't know how to
> > get this to work ? Tina, as a real SL user, not an occasional renter
> > like me, is there a way to get the camera to do the right thing?) is
> > that after you take a picture, the position of the magnified bit keeps
> > resetting to the center of the frame, instead of staying where you
> > carefully placed it to magnify the important part of the current
> > composition on which you'd like to focus.
> >
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>
>
> --
> Tina Manley
> www.tinamanley.com
> http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley
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> >
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