Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2019/01/15
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Sent before I finished!! I brought the M 24/2.8 and the M 50/1.4 and the adapters on this trip but I am using them on the M240 and the MM, not on the SL. The results with the SL lenses surpass anything I can get with a manual focus lens. I've been very happy with the results I'm getting on this trip. It is a very hectic trip, though, with not much time on any one subject. I just don't have time to manually focus the M or the R lenses. The auto-focus on the SL works so well, I'm not tempted at all to use the other lenses. Tina On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 10:08 PM Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote: > I agree. I have the SL and all of the adapters for R and M lenses; > however, I find myself reaching for the SL lenses instead. > > On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 2:03 AM Philippe via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> > wrote: > >> OFF TOPIC in a way, yet. >> >> From my experience, using legacy lenses on current bodies is more often >> than not a waste of time and bucks. >> >> You loose so much in terms of fringing, slow operation and hazardous >> rings, focusing wide open and then closing down, manual focusing, flare, >> distortion, ease of use, that any kit lens ( well the leica ones aren?t >> cheap I must admit ) is probably better in the field than older faithful >> and trusted ones. >> >> George of the icicles spoke of systems (lens and body). And he most >> certainly is even more right these days than when he wrote it. >> >> As a frustrated R user (R3MOT, R4, R8), I claim that Leica never lived up >> to the promise of an ? adequate solution ? for R users and lens owners. >> >> The SL is a new system per se, and should be used as such I?m both happy >> and sorry to say. >> >> Amities >> >> Philippe >> >> >> >> > Le 14 janv. 2019 ? 18:56, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net> a >> ?crit : >> > >> > We will soon have more body choices to the Leica SL... the Panasonic >> body is supposed to be announced soon. More of the Leica user base will >> be >> looking for these ( and other) bodies for their existing R or M optics. >> What would be helpful is to have those that have used the system for a >> while give the rest an idea of what works and what does not. >> > Several members have SL bodies, and may have adapted their M lenses or >> R lenses to the SL. It would be very informative if members could post >> their experiences with the various combinations, especially if they have >> tried both M and R versions on their SL. >> > Some ideas......What adapter do you use that does the job? There are 3 >> possible (China adapters not included) solutions: R-SL adapter. R-M plus >> M to SL 2 pieces adaptation. Novoflex R-SL adapter. Did you experiment >> with one or another solutions and found them unsatisfactoy? Why? >> > Yes, they all work with almost all the R lenses or M lenses, this is >> taken for granted. Did R lenses work ?better? or ?worse? than the >> equivalent M solution? What did you identify as the reason one was >> ?better? than the other? >> > Some long Telephoto R lenses will vignette with the use of the R to M >> adapter followed by the M to SL adapter. ( Caused by the smaller throat >> of >> the M adapter compared to the R-SL direct adapter). Use one of the 1 >> stage >> adapter to avoid this. They work. >> > What anomalies have you found? What is ?weird? when you use your older >> lenses? What did NOT work? >> > How do you focus? Open up lenses to max aperture and focus, then shut >> down lens to working aperture? Do you magnify the view when focusing? >> Use >> the Focus confirmation indicator? >> > Based on your personal experiences, what would be your ?wish list? >> adapter look like? Features wanted? R to SL or M to SL? >> > For those about to write how nice the SL native lenses work and the >> quality of images made,..... We all know native lenses are more ergonomic >> to use, and robably produce ?better? (optically) images. It is the $4-5-6K >> per lens that is the underlying point of using adapted R or M lenses, >> which cost a small fraction ( in most cases) of their newer brothers. Not >> everyone is rich enough to afford a set of 4-5-6 times $5K lenses. >> > >> > From what I have read to date:The ?best? adapter is the one piece R to >> L adapter. It transfers fstop ( estimated NOT direct aperture reaad out) >> and focal length of the ROM lens to the body for writing into the EXIF >> file. Optical lens corrrections can be automatically applied. >> > The ?best? M adapter is the M to SL adapter as it transfers the 6 bit >> code of the lens to the body. Optical lens corrections can be >> automatically applied. >> > >> > The Novoflex adapters are all basic tubes. No info from the lens is >> transmitted to the body...none. You may manually enter this info into the >> body by selection from a menu of lenses. ( same is true for any dumb >> Chinese adapters) or non-ROM lenses on Leica made adapters. >> > No existant adapter has any mechanical connection to the lens >> mechanics. None of the aperture connections will work with R lenses. >> > >> > Frank Filippone Red735i at verizon.net >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Leica Users Group. >> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > -- > Tina Manley > www.tinamanley.com > tina-manley.artistwebsites.com > http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley > <http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html> > > > -- Tina Manley www.tinamanley.com tina-manley.artistwebsites.com http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley <http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html>