Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2017/08/25

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Subject: [Leica] Leica M9 CCD problem
From: ric at cartersxrd.net (RicCarter)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2017 20:10:10 -0400
References: <CAJCexzC=Q6Edg3n5EQHNpDrB_y_3MDEN+HgR7w=qW8HaB1Kt0g@mail.gmail.com> <000501d31ddb$afd065b0$0f713110$@verizon.net> <CAJCexzDc7xeKBydrmtxQG038CUaMTJeiOozOcHxoMGp5XzUKyQ@mail.gmail.com> <001701d31df5$07599220$160cb660$@verizon.net>

may we assume that the firmware version number is an indicator of 
sensor/cover glass repair/replacement?

ric


> On Aug 25, 2017, at 6:53 PM, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> Yes, my M9 problem was not a glass coating image, the stinking glass plate
> FELL OFF ( think in terms of something going tinkle tinkle inside your
> camera... scary sounds)  Look at the sensor and you see the glass plate has
> shifted from its obvious correct position....  NOT the same problem as the
> cover glass having corrosion issues....
> 
> I have an M9 and a CCD Monochrom.  The M9 had the glass fall off... the
> Monochrom is currently in for service with the "coating separatin".....
> They only put a new glue ring and a new glass on the M9.  ( the glue ring
> looks like a rectangular donut of very thin thinness (glue only, it seems)
> ....  I found this info by looking on the InterWeb and making some
> suppositions.....)
> However, the overall solution is the same... replace the cover glass
> plate.....   No need to replace the sensor, it works fine.....
> 
> The data I reported is on my Monochrom.... for which I do not KNOW what is
> going to be changed..... But I believe it will be the same repair....
> remove old glass, and glue, replace glue, replace glass... then a
> calibration and FW update.....
> 
> The FW update is to accommodate the different characteristics of the new
> glass cover plate.  ( before someone goes nuts trying to figure out the
> change, take a chip pill... the glass is DIFFERENT.  Therefore the color
> characteristic are different... therefore, to get the same output resultant
> in an image, you must alter the color lookup table in FW.  It is 
> transparent
> to us as users.)
> 
> Frank Filippone
> 
> Red735i at verizon.net
> 
> 
> it would appear that your M9 problem was different.
> 
> My repair memo states:
> 
> *"Necessary labours *3.000 H
> 
> **THERE IS A PART MISSING FOR THIS REPAIR;
> 
> IT WILL DELAY THE COMPLETION FOR A
> 
> COUPLE OF WEEKS.
> 
> WE APOLOGIZE FOR THE INCONVENIENCE.**
> 
> *Error description *
> 
> Sensor cover glass, coating is seperatin
> 
> adjust range finder
> 
> clean, lubrication and adjustment
> 
> *leather covering *1 PCS
> 
> *CIRCUIT M9 REV 4+5 *1 PCS"
> 
> 
> Note that there is a coating problem on the sensor cover glass; the cover
> itself has not fallen off. Of course, Leica could just change the top cover
> only and keep the original CCD sensor. Not sure how we can tell short of
> stripping the camera.
> 
> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net>
> wrote:
> 
>> My M9 had the sensor cover glass fall off.  They put on a new glue 
>> ring and new glass.  No sensor replacement....
>> 
>> I have said this before..... In the case of corroded sensor cover 
>> plate......They are NOT replacing the sensor... all that needs to be 
>> done is to replace the faulty glass cover plate..... so that is all 
>> they are doing.....
>> 
>> Regardless of what someone thinks they are doing.....or did......
>> 
>> A better question is.......  Are they swapping out YOUR sensor PCB for 
>> a repaired replacement?
>> I do not know.  Given that they took 11 weeks on my M9, and God knows 
>> how long on the Monochrom, they certainly have the time to not do the
> swap....
>> 
>> Frank Filippone  M9, Monochrom CCD, both repaired.....
>> 
>> Red735i at verizon.net
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> Yet another post on the M9 CCD problem.
>> 
>> I sent in my M9 for repair just before the deadline and got an email 
>> stating that  the sensor glass would be replaced only. Is this the 
>> standard remedy for this problem? Based on reports on the web I was 
>> under the impression that the entire sensor would be replaced not just 
>> the glass
>> cover- I assume this is why Leica ask for ca. 1000 euros after the 
>> August 15th  deadline.
>> 
>> I would very much appreciated hearing from luggers who have had the 
>> CCD on their M9s repaired. Please post the scope of your repair: glass 
>> only entire CCD or...?
>> Akhil
>> 
>> 
>> 
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