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Subject: [Leica] Less you scoff at R lenses compared to 21st Century M lenses.........
From: tedgrant at shaw.ca (Ted Grant)
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2017 10:09:49 -0700
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Hi Frank,
I always have a great enjoyable time reading the "LENS TESTING MAIL":-)
explaining what many of you do and go through with LEICA GLASS?  :-)
When I went all "LEICA GEAR" many many years ago it never occurred to me to
test or compare to others.
My tests were always KISS! Click lens on camera and get on with the
assignment I had flown 4000 miles to shoot? 
I just figured if I bought the best, LEICA? I need not be wasting time
testing. But then I rarely read camera manuals? OOPS! BAD!
However, film cameras were all pretty well the same? YEA RIGHT? :-) :-(
My today failures, with all this digital camera gear and computers?
I'm a total wreck making adjustments.
My operation routine with the computer first before I make "my adjustments?"
Press "auto colour?" if it makes a slight change and my simple minded
response is?... "OH THAT LOOKS COOL!" I leave it and get on with contrast
etc. If they look "cool colour or touch of contrast etc.?" I LEAVE THEM BE.
"one click!" WHY? Well why screw around wasting time twiddling knobs and
pressing buttons. When if you shot it right in the first place and you felt
the auto-setting made it look like perfect? Why tweak an hour or so screwing
around supposedly making it look better.
AFTER ALL!??
ISN'T THE "CONTENT THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF YOUR IMAGE?"  ;-)
Ok,  :-) So I'm pulling the "crew's" imaginations a bit as I realize and
have done so on occasions myself "twiddled" a colour slightly richer when I
thought it made the photo look?  "REAL COOL!" :-) 
But for me when you lads get into all the testing's you do with whatever?
Yes I do read them for my benefit just in case? Generally I don't do many of
the suggestions. However? I very much enjoy reading them.  :-)
cheers,
Dr. Ted  O.C.   
   


-----Original Message-----
From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On Behalf 
Of
Frank Filippone
Sent: July-07-17 3:37 PM
To: 'Leica Users Group'
Subject: Re: [Leica] Less you scoff at R lenses compared to 21st Century M
lenses.........

My 45 year old cypress fence is NOT interesting.  It has interesting knots
that I use both for focusing and for evaluation of the lens.

The images are WAYYYYYYYY too boring.  Proper lens tests, even simplified
ones as I do, are best left to conclusions.  Take them with a grain of salt,
if you prefer.

I wills see what I can do about the Noctilux vs 7Artisans actual picture
taking results.  In those tests, it is not sharpness, but rather fingerprint
that counts.... and might actually be interesting...
Imagine taking the $5000 out of your bag and replacing it with $369......
and pocketing the difference.....  THAT is interesting....

The Noctilux never was a sharpness related lens.  It is faster by 1 stop
than the ultimate lens for the M, the 50 ASPH Lux.  ( 2 stops faster than
the ASPH Summicron, that I do not own.) .  
It has wonderful glow.  That is what makes it special.  Let's see if the
cheapie lens can approximate that look.....

Frank Filippone

Red735i at verizon.net

It would be interesting to see the images though.

Peter



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