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Subject: [Leica] PESO 07 05 17
From: pdzwig at summaventures.com (Peter Dzwig)
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2017 11:57:16 +0100
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In the days when I was doing PAW seriously I reckoned to get through 60+ 
rolls
per year.

Peter

On 08/07/2017 00:55, Dan Khong wrote:
> That's even better with a whopping 900 rolls to match up to the price of 
> an M9. At 30 rolls per year, which is quite reasonable for a keen amateur, 
> he needs to live another 30 years. By that time, the M9 would have bitten 
> the dust much earlier. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 8 Jul 2017, at 5:33 AM, Jim Shulman <jshulman at judgecrater.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Agreed.  Actually, I figured tri-x 36 exposure at $4.95/roll from B&H (as
>> of yesterday), and the cost of chemicals (D-76 private label, plus Arista
>> rapid-fixer)/sleeves at $1.50/roll from my orders with Freestylephoto.biz,
>> so I subtracted the cost of the reconditioned V600 from the total, and
>> used a total of $6.50/roll for the calculation.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+jshulman=judgecrater.com at 
>> leica-users.org] On
>> Behalf Of Dan Khong
>> Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 5:20 PM
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] PESO 07 05 17
>>
>> Today, one roll of TriX is $7. To soup the film is another $2. To scan the
>> roll professionally (they even take away the dust) is $10. So with $20, I
>> will have a roll to enlarge with my enlarger and 36 digital images to play
>> around. If a digital M costs $6000 (on SALE, let's say), that's equivalent
>> to 300 rolls. That's a lot of years of film use.
>>
>> Professionals need to use digital. That's their bread and butter. Amateurs
>> like me can still play around with films.
>>
>> Dan K.
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 5:11 AM, Jim Shulman <jshulman at judgecrater.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I agree.  Interesting you should mention thus: The Leica Society
>>> (formerly
>>> LHSA) just posted a video of Jim Lager talking about getting into
>>> Leica equipment.  He mentioned that if your budget did not permit new
>>> optics and a camera, you should buy a new body and older optics.  He
>>> mentioned an SL or an M240.  I wrote to executive director and noted
>>> that the purchaser of a nice M3 (which can be had with a recent CLA
>>> for under a grand) would allow the purchaser to buy nearly 600 rolls
>>> of Tri-X with home processing, plus an Epson V600 scanner for the
>>> price of an SL (or about 300+ rolls with an M240 option).  The
>>> likelihood of a beginner blowing through 300 rolls in two years is
>>> highly unlikely, so that it makes better economic sense to go for the
>>> film camera.  Plus, after two years' use the SL or M240 would have
>> depreciated, while the M3 would have retained its value, if not increased.
>>> If the person getting into Leica photography were a professional or
>>> needed immediate confirmation of an image, then the considerably more
>>> expensive digital body would make sense. Lager also recommended
>>> shopping for used equipment online without a mention of eBay's not
>> inconsiderable pitfalls.
>>> Ill let everyone know if I receive a response.
>>> Lovely shot, beautifully captured the wh9ole composition of woman plus
>>> puppy plus background figures just works for me.
>>>
>>> The M3 is of course still the best Leica ever. No Flames , PLEASE!!!
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>>> On 06/07/2017 01:08, Jim Shulman wrote:
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/focusit/fountain+puppy+sm.jpg.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> M3, Summilux 50, Neopan 400
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jim Shulman
>>>>
>>>> Wynnewood, PA
>>>>
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Dr Peter Dzwig                          



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