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Subject: [Leica] PESO 07 05 17
From: jshulman at judgecrater.com (Jim Shulman)
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2017 17:33:54 -0400
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Agreed.  Actually, I figured tri-x 36 exposure at $4.95/roll from B&H (as
of yesterday), and the cost of chemicals (D-76 private label, plus Arista
rapid-fixer)/sleeves at $1.50/roll from my orders with Freestylephoto.biz,
so I subtracted the cost of the reconditioned V600 from the total, and
used a total of $6.50/roll for the calculation.

-----Original Message-----
From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+jshulman=judgecrater.com at leica-users.org] On
Behalf Of Dan Khong
Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 5:20 PM
To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
Subject: Re: [Leica] PESO 07 05 17

Today, one roll of TriX is $7. To soup the film is another $2. To scan the
roll professionally (they even take away the dust) is $10. So with $20, I
will have a roll to enlarge with my enlarger and 36 digital images to play
around. If a digital M costs $6000 (on SALE, let's say), that's equivalent
to 300 rolls. That's a lot of years of film use.

Professionals need to use digital. That's their bread and butter. Amateurs
like me can still play around with films.

Dan K.

On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 5:11 AM, Jim Shulman <jshulman at judgecrater.com>
wrote:

> I agree.  Interesting you should mention thus: The Leica Society
> (formerly
> LHSA) just posted a video of Jim Lager talking about getting into
> Leica equipment.  He mentioned that if your budget did not permit new
> optics and a camera, you should buy a new body and older optics.  He
> mentioned an SL or an M240.  I wrote to executive director and noted
> that the purchaser of a nice M3 (which can be had with a recent CLA
> for under a grand) would allow the purchaser to buy nearly 600 rolls
> of Tri-X with home processing, plus an Epson V600 scanner for the
> price of an SL (or about 300+ rolls with an M240 option).  The
> likelihood of a beginner blowing through 300 rolls in two years is
> highly unlikely, so that it makes better economic sense to go for the
> film camera.  Plus, after two years' use the SL or M240 would have
depreciated, while the M3 would have retained its value, if not increased.
> If the person getting into Leica photography were a professional or
> needed immediate confirmation of an image, then the considerably more
> expensive digital body would make sense. Lager also recommended
> shopping for used equipment online without a mention of eBay's not
inconsiderable pitfalls.
> Ill let everyone know if I receive a response.
> Lovely shot, beautifully captured the wh9ole composition of woman plus
> puppy plus background figures just works for me.
>
> The M3 is of course still the best Leica ever. No Flames , PLEASE!!!
>
> Peter
>
> On 06/07/2017 01:08, Jim Shulman wrote:
> > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/focusit/fountain+puppy+sm.jpg.html
> >
> >
> >
> > M3, Summilux 50, Neopan 400
> >
> >
> >
> > Jim Shulman
> >
> > Wynnewood, PA
> >
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Replies: Reply from dankhong at gmail.com (Dan Khong) ([Leica] PESO 07 05 17)
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