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Subject: [Leica] IMG: Testing SL For Milky Way Imaging
From: geneduprey2015 at gmail.com (geneduprey2015 at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 12:53:53 -0500
References: <CAAsXt4N016C4v79C=1K1pt2UB_GxeoLobq9OhS51FdOcWJskug@mail.gmail.com> <FAB2923F-0516-4CD8-B658-B6F92E0B11A0@twc.com>

I'm surprised you used such a high ISO. I have been using 3200 or 2400 with 
great results and between 25 & 30 seconds.  Great shot though.
Gene

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 22, 2017, at 10:49 AM, Howard L Ritter Jr <hlritter at twc.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> That?s a very nice capture of the region towards the center of the Galaxy, 
> Bob. And even expanding the image on my screen, I don?t see any bothersome 
> noise. There?s virtually none in the dark regions of the hills, and the 
> mottling in the lake and the sky I think is primarily due to the 
> innumerable stars. In any case, the SL?s performance at ISO 12500 is 
> impressive. That region is my favorite binocular target, and now that I?ve 
> discovered how to nearly eliminate the effects of light pollution in my 
> suburban sky, and begun to do sky imaging, it will be a target for that as 
> well. 
> 
> I don?t recall whether you mentioned seeing them when I first posted them, 
> but I took some similar shots of the Southern Hemisphere Milky Way from 
> Australia in April. I took them with a Nikon D810A (the astrophotography 
> model with the less IR-restrictive sensor cover plate) and the Nikon 
> 14-24mm zoom at 14mm or the 24-85mm zoom at 50 or 85mm. The shots with the 
> zoom were done with the camera on a tracking device to avoid star 
> trailing. I used ISOs of 1600-6400.
> 
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/hlritter/Gallery_001/ 
> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/hlritter/Gallery_001/>
> 
> I stretched the histogram of my images in PS by moving the white-point 
> slider to brighten the stars and the black-point slider to darken the 
> background sky, then fiddled with both, plus the grey-point slider, to get 
> the effect I wanted. To get rid of vignetting, I also applied a flat-field 
> correction frame that I took in daylight with a couple of layers of white 
> T-shirt over the lens, and the camera aimed away from the sun at a sunlit 
> scene, and then converted to greyscale. I think my images as posted are a 
> bit hyper-real, but that?s a goal of photographing any celestial targets 
> other than the bright moon and planets. In any case, they carry the flavor 
> of the visual impact of seeing the Southern Milky Way and the Magellanic 
> Clouds, for the first time, from the deep darkness of rural Australia. The 
> left side of the region of the MW that I imaged adjoins on the right your 
> region of the MW at the dense star cloud in the center of your first 
> image. The very different orientation of the MW is what happens when your 
> viewpoint is rotated 65 degrees clockwise!
> 
> Did you do any post-processing of these images? They have the look of raw 
> images to me. If so, I?d be interested to see what the result of a 
> histogram stretch might be. Would you mind sharing the raw file with me so 
> I can play a little? I?ve added a couple of the raw images to my album so 
> you can see the difference post-processing makes.
> 
> It?s possible to see very short star trails by enlarging your images. The 
> rule of thumb is that they won?t be easily noticeable if the exposure time 
> is not more than 300 sec divided by the FL in mm, so your 20-sec exposures 
> at 24mm are pushing it. If you?re going to do much of this sort of thing, 
> a camera tracker can be had for about the price of 2 or 3 SL batteries? ? 
> Some of my images were exposed for longer than the rule of 300, which is 
> possible when the region being imaged is well away from the celestial 
> equator, where the stars move fastest.
> 
> (Pardon me if I?m telling you things you already know!)
> 
> ?howard
> 
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2017, at 5:28 PM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Last night I went up to Silver Lake in the Sierras. It's at about 7,800'
>> elevation. I went to see how the SL with the SL24-90mm would work with
>> Milky Way photography. The two images were taken at 12,500 ISO @ 24mm,
>> f/2.8 with a 20second exposure. I shot from 10:30pm until 3:00am...
>> 
>> Though there is a lot of noise, I don't find it distracting. The drama of
>> the center of our galaxy seems to outweigh any noise issues. Please click
>> on the image to make it larger to fit your screen:
>> 
>> http://www.robertadlerphotography.com/p133735760/h8e052599#h8e052599
>> 
>> I would appreciate others' opinions as to whether or not they find the
>> noise distasteful or does it look more like film grain. The images were
>> post processed in Capture 1.
>> 
>> Thanks for any opinions in advance,
>> Bob
>> 
>> 
>> Bob Adler
>> www.robertadlerphotography.com
>> *"Capturing Light One Frame At A Time"*
>> 
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