Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2017/01/06
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I've experimented with that, and it works. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA On 1/6/2017 6:13 PM, Frank Filippone wrote: > IN LR, there is an area to put a form of data base file structure... > called Keywords. It is used for quickly finding an image by certain user > defined words in conjunction with the LR file SW. > > If you listen to Adobe, ALL your files go into one actual file ( folder , > or whatever you like to call it, a computer file.) Then you use the > Keywords to actually categorize your images and be able to select one at > will. Think of Tina and 900,000 images... how to find the 1 that was > taken on Jan 26, 2014 of the Kids playing in the back yard.... the one > that shows #2 Grandson with a yellow shirt on.... You NEED a database > that is capable and easy to use. Keywords does that for you. But to be > effective, you MUST be consistent and always use them. > > Your previously used Keywords are listed, so you do not have to remember > what you used... but after a few hundred, finding the ONE that you want > can be a Debbie Downer. > > Keywords are also setup to be hierarchal. You can ( and probably should) > use that feature.... example... Trips > Europe> Belgium> Brussels Nest > one inside the other to make it easy.... > > For instance, and using your current actual file structure: these are > keywords you might use...... > Year, Date, Camera, Lens, Subject..... Now the camera is also in the EXIF > file structure, so that is a bit of redundancy... but certainly not a big > deal. So is the year and date and lens.... > IF your EXIF data actually includes it.... ( why would it not? If you > use a Nikon lens on a Leica M9 body, there will be none of the data except > date and camera. The lens info is not recorded, Scans also do not > include it.... as if your scanner would know what lens was used to take an > image.....) > > Now actual file structure.... Does it make ANY difference if you use the > massive file and sort using the keywords or the sub file approach like > Year? No. None. Although I am sure there is probably some advantage if > you use some esoteric command, but I do not use them. > So you could continue to use your present file structure, without > problems. Or not. > > In addition, LR allows you to open more than one file structure at the > same time.... so you can look at the images in the 2004 file and the 2014 > file at the same time.... Again,, any reason to put ALL the images in > one giant file stricture? Not that I can see..... > > Some use by Year, or maybe by occasion ( Uncle Mickey's 101th Birthday), > or maybe by Camera ( Leica, Canon, Nikon)..... Does it matter? No. > > Use one that you like, and be religious about using it. > > LR is pretty easy to figure out... it works like Photographers think. It > is not (usually) obtuse, there are books to help you, and, If you wish, > you can buy (what is now called ) a perpetual license.... instead of $10 a > month for the rest of your life....... > > Frank Filippone > Red735i at verizon.net > > > -----Original Message----- > From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+red735i=verizon.net at leica-users.org] On > Behalf Of Jim Nichols > Sent: Friday, January 06, 2017 8:40 AM > To: Leica Users Group > Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: My Struggle to Learn to Use Lightroom > > Nathan, > > Thank you very much for sharing your file structure with me. It would > appear that you gave a lot of thought to this, and it gives me a good > pattern to follow. > > I have been shooting RAW+jpeg, and using the jpegs as a quick way to > discard the losers and pick the winners. It looks as if LR can do that > job from the RAW images, so I think I will also shoot RAW only. > > I am now going to spend some time developing a LR file system. My RAW > image files are on a dedicated external drive using a > Year/Date/Camera/Lens/Subject format that I have used for years. I will > probably put my completed images back into that same folder, because my > volume of images is quite low compared to some of you more prolific > producers. > > Thanks again, and I will get busy on a file structure. > > Jim Nichols > Tullahoma, TN USA > > On 1/6/2017 12:45 AM, Nathan Wajsman wrote: >> Hi Jim, >> >> I am coming late to this thread, but FWIW, here is my workflow. Before >> getting into it, let me say that I like simplicity and hate using more >> than one piece of software. This is why I like LR so much. It is the only >> piece of photo editing software I need. No Photoshop, no specialized RAW >> converters, no special panorama tools etc.?everything I need is in LR. I >> use the standalone version, not the subscription. Also, I only ever shoot >> RAW. >> >> So, with that, here is what happens to an image from the moment I press >> the shutter till you see it in one of my posts. I will use one of my >> recent Milano images as an example. >> >> 1) Take picture. Always RAW. >> >> 2) Copy the RAW file to the appropriate folder on an external hard drive >> used only for storage of RAW files. The folder structure on this drive >> is: CAMERA-YEAR. So in this case, the top folder is Leica (since I had >> the M8 with me in Milano) and the subfolder is 2016. But of course you >> can organize your RAW files any way you like, as long as you know where >> you put them so that you can tell LR where they are in the next step. >> >> 3) Import the RAW file into LR. The LR image folder is on a separate >> external hard drive and is simply organized by year. So in this example, >> LR imports the image to a subfolder of LR Pictures called, simply, 2016. >> >> 4) Make my adjustments to the image using the tools available in LR. >> >> 5) Move the image to the appropriate gallery within LR. This concept of >> galleries is incredibly useful, and has nothing to do with the folder >> structure on the hard drive. Think of it as a way of organizing the >> images around themes or events or however you wish to define the >> categories. In my case, I have a gallery called ?Alicante life? where >> most of my images end up since I live here and so most of my images are >> made here. But in the example I am using, I put the image in a gallery I >> created for this purpose called ?Milano 2016?, which is in turn a >> sub-gallery of a gallery set called ?Italy?. I have such gallery sets for >> countries that I visit frequently, i.e. Denmark, the US, the UK, Italy, >> Germany, France. >> >> The other very useful thing about galleries is that you can assign an >> image to more than one gallery?you are not making additional copies by >> doing that, there is always just one physical file, but you are simply >> letting LR know that a particular image belongs to several categories. >> For example, I have a gallery called ?Cycling? where I keep the images I >> take while out cycling (doh!). So, if I take any picture during my ride >> this morning, they will belong to both the ?Alicante life? and ?Cycling? >> galleries. When I cycled in Mallorca in February 2016 or in Denmark in >> April 2016, the resulting images similarly ended up in the ?Cycling? >> gallery and in the respective geographically defined galleries. >> >> 6) Export the image for web publication. In the case of my Milano image, >> the folder to which I export the image is a subfolder of the ?Galleries >> for Frozenlight? folder called ?MIlano 2016?. I similarly have folders >> and subfolders for my weekly blog images, my Greatpix galleries etc. All >> of this irrelevant as far as LR is concerned. As Ken said, it is like >> printing, a one-way activity. Once exported, LR has nothing to do with >> that JPG file. >> >> 7) Upload the JPG file to the appropriate web gallery and post the link >> to the LUG and Oly lists. >> >> Of course, there are backups of the RAW files and the LR files, but that >> is not our subject here. >> >> Hope that helps/inspires. >> >> Nathan >> >> >> Nathan Wajsman >> Alicante, Spain >> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/> http:// >> <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu >> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >> <http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: >> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ >> <http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/> >> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator >> <http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator> >> YNWA >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> On 06 Jan 2017, at 06:35, Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks, Richard. That is the direction I'm heading. I just need to get >>> comfortable with it. >>> >>> Jim Nichols >>> Tullahoma, TN USA >>> >>> On 1/5/2017 11:29 PM, Richard Man wrote: >>>> Jim, for posting from LR, I either export/FTP directory to my >>>> server, or if you are using something like ht eLUIG gallery, first >>>> export the image with the correct settings (e.g. maybe 900 pixels >>>> across, sRGB color space etc.) to a folder on the disk. For example, >>>> I use g:\PhotoExports. I set up "template" so it's just a couple >>>> clicks to do it each time. Once you have the exported file on disk, >>>> then just upload to your favorite site per usual. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 10:22 AM, Jim Nichols >>>> <jhnichols at lighttube.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> OK, all of you gals and guys are using Lightroom, and it can >>>>> convert Fuji >>>>> X-T2 RAF files, so I need to adapt. I downloaded the 7-day free >>>>> trial, and on my second day, I managed to convert an X-E1 RAF file >>>>> and post a jpeg image. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/January+Selfie.jpg.htm >>>>> l >>>>> >>>>> But, I did a lot of chasing my tail in trying to place images in >>>>> the Library, and post from there. That didn't seem to work, so I >>>>> took a devious route to place a "real" image in my normal folder, >>>>> and posted from there. >>>>> >>>>> Has any one got a link to a Lightroom tutorial for Dummies? >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Jim Nichols >>>>> Tullahoma, TN USA >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>> information >>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >