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Subject: [Leica] Best Learning Camera
From: douglas.sharp at gmx.de (Douglas Sharp)
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 16:26:50 +0100
References: <D4636DBB.6816F%mark@rabinergroup.com> <A964A8E5D6D343A5ACBC2E94CF39421D@Family>

Why does everyone seem to think she needs a rangefinder 
camera?

All the big manufacturers make reasonably priced DSLRs 
with all the manual setting options you could ever ask 
for - and plenty of Auto bits and bobs to tide her over 
till she learns all about them! One thing?s certain - 
she will have one of the best as a teacher!

The best suggestion so far was to let her pick the one 
she wants.

Cheers
Douglas

On 29.11.2016 23:43, Douglas Barry wrote:
> I take it you've no children, Mark. I sometimes just 
> had to lob raw meat in the corner where they were 
> gathered :-)
>
> Douglas
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Rabiner" 
> <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 10:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Best Learning Camera
>
>
> I would bring her to the camera store and let her 
> pick out her own camera.
> It's all about her not us.
>
> If someone picked out a camera for me I'd strangle 
> them with my bare hands
> with gratitude. Its really quite a presumptuous insult.
> We need to stop treating kids like they're sub 
> humans. Those days are past.
>
>
> On 11/29/16 1:50 PM, "John McMaster" 
> <john at mcmaster.fr> wrote:
>
>> I thought the 65mm needed a Visoflex to work? Also 
>> only a portrait lens on an
>> M8... Don't forget the UV/IR filters if shooting in 
>> colour
>>
>> John
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> I second Jayanand?s suggestion, and also John?s of 
>> getting her a 35mm
>> Voigtlander lens for the M8 if you prefer to steer 
>> her the Leica way. I think
>> the 65mm Elmar by itself would not be that useful, 
>> whereas a 35mm (or a 28mm)
>> would work much better on the M8 as an all-around lens.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Nathan
>>
>>
>> Nathan Wajsman
>> Alicante, Spain
>>
>>> On 29 Nov 2016, at 18:06, Jayanand Govindaraj 
>>> <jayanand at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I would suggest a Fuji XE2, bought used, with a 
>>> 35mm f2 (50mm
>>> equivalent) to start with. B&H are selling the Fuji 
>>> lens new at
>>> US$299, a raging bargain if I ever saw one! This 
>>> will make a
>>> lightweight, compact starter system, with excellent 
>>> components, and
>>> all manual controls individually available, 
>>> including excellent focus
>>> peaking to aid manual focus. You can buy her a Fuji 
>>> made M adapter later for
>>> her to try your lenses.
>>>
>>> https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/801263229-USE/fujifilm_16404791 
>>>
>>> _x_e2_mirrorless_digital_camera.html
>>>
>>> https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1191420-REG/fujifilm_xf_35mm_f_ 
>>>
>>> 2_r.html
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Jayanand
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 10:14 PM, Tina Manley 
>>> <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> LUG:
>>>>
>>>> My granddaughter is 15 and into all things 
>>>> artistic.  She is taking
>>>> photography in high school and is very interested, 
>>>> following me
>>>> around asking lots of good questions.
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to get her a good camera for Christmas 
>>>> that she can use to learn.
>>>> She's very interested in f stops and focal lengths 
>>>> and the
>>>> differences they make.
>>>>
>>>> One choice would be to give her one of my old M8's 
>>>> but the
>>>> disadvantage to that is that she will not be able 
>>>> to afford extra
>>>> lenses for it.  I have an old Elmar 65/3.5 that I 
>>>> would include but I
>>>> don't have a lot of surplus lenses.
>>>>
>>>> Is there another digital camera out there that 
>>>> would be good for
>>>> learning apertures, speeds, focal lengths?  Most 
>>>> of them are so
>>>> automatic you don't ever have to know what those 
>>>> are but she wants to know!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Tina
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Tina Manley
>>>> www.tinamanley.com
>>>> tina-manley.artistwebsites.com
>>>> http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-
>>>> 4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html
>>>>
>>
>>
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Replies: Reply from jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj) ([Leica] Best Learning Camera)
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